Tari makes most of his mistakes while running 18 mph. Jabari makes mistakes while walking or standing still. Homie will take 3 seconds, look over to coach and ask a question before passing the ball.
To me, thats what makes him special. He doesn’t need the ball and he's still giving us 18ppg. Imagine if he had plays ran for him?
You are vastly underrating Giddey. He averaged 18pts, 9.1 assists (3rd in the league), 8.3 rebounds on 36% from 3 and is a 6 foot 7 inch guard at 25m a year. Wow, what a scrub.
The fact that OKC traded Gidday for a hurt Caruso... and then they won a ring afterwards telsl me all I need to know about him.
lol. Sengun needs to be traded if this team wants to stiff the next level. If all they care about is putting enough fans in the seats while competing for the playoffs then no trade needed.
Josh Giddey requested the trade, because they could not give him a starting role and he knew that would restrict how much money he could command. Caruso was the perfect fit for Oklahoma City. Giddey went on to start for the bulls as a pg and performed at an all-star level before his injury. He is the only player on their roster that they did not market at the deadline. Peformance on the court should tell you all you need to know. Josh didn’t fit as a starter in OKC, but was a great starter for the bulls. Guys screaming for a PG on the Rockets sh*tting on a guy that averaged 9.1 assists and 8 rebounds and shot 44% fg compared to FVV’s 39% and 36% from 3 and making 25m a year (same as FVV) is crazy.
Giddy can hoop. Trade Sengun for him, we get worse. Trade Jabari for him, we’re in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Pretty simple, just need 1 GM to catch the dumbass disease that’s effected 80% of the Rockets fan base into thinking Smith Jr is a future championship starter and Sengun is the problem that needs to go and then profit. Counting shooters and ignoring scoreboards and all reasonable thought is hot right now.
Give me a break. You don’t average 9.1 assists and 8.3 rebounds in the nba if you are a scrub. Same guys that point at KD’s box scores and proclaim him a superstar regardless of the chemistry issues, turnovers, lack of defense and age, decrying stats that don’t support their narrative is hilarious. I believe in the eye test and useful stats. Basketball is a team sport. Giddey is a team player. It’s ok to say you hate him, because of his personality or statutory rape allegations, but both the eye test and stats point to him being a very good player, and, last year in the conversation as an all-star. Sengun is also a very good player in spite of his having a horrible shooting year. Giddey would fit the Rockets, Sengun does not.
FVV is a statistically awful player, but he improves this team when he’s on the floor. And after the fiasco I saw last year, I believe that even a busted ACL Fred will be able to improve the team this coming year. So if you could get Giddey for Fred and picks, I’d do it. I’d also do it for Jabari, as we are set up perfectly to make that transaction and have a solid starting lineup. Sengun is probably going to be a tough sell for me, though. Jabari would be my preferred trade piece. Giddey/FVV Amen/Reed Tari/Okogie Durant Sengun/Adams
I mean he averages a near triple double and is only 23. I would take him not for Sengun though. I'd trade Bari and FVV.
Sengun straight up is a better player than Giddey. Trading Jabari for Giddey does nothing to solve the core issue of our roster balance which is Amen and Sengun don’t fit, because of shooting, and Sengun, KD and Reed don’t fit, because of defense. I know you are down on Jabari, but trading Jabari for Giddey solves the problem of FVV/Reed sucking, but doesn’t solve the core issues of team balance. Another aspect to consider is trade value. We need a trade or two to re-balance this roster. Sengun has the second most trade value on this team and is the poorest fit with the rest of the starters. He should be shopped and if you get appropriate value, he should be shipped out.
I'm also a big believer in Reed and he would never be able to play with giddey because giddey is a total zero on defense. I'm generally not a fan of non elite guards who are zeros on defense (same reason i don't want herro).
Hahaha. FVV, KD, Sengun, and Kessler would be the slowest most unathletic team in NBA history. What a completely idiotic idea.
Yeah, but your opinion on JSjr is very clearly skewed to see what you want, so we can disregard this one! [I ain't saying he is good, just that he must've spilt coffee on you or something, your hate is lolworthy]
Yeah I just disagree on the game play, looks fast with 5 starters that can handle. Move Amen to forward and put him in the Jabari weakside rim protection and rebounding spot to speed us up. Granted I’m imagining a fully healthy FVV from 2 years ago that can play next to Giddey at the 2 and handle some primary POA responsibilities. If he’s no longer that, would still need to acquire that. Not worried about the depth at the 4 with KD, Amen, Tari, and maybe some Sengun w Adams alignments
That’s a reasonable take. You can play a backcourt of Amen and Reed, if you have a rim protector. Likewise, you can play Amen and Giddey with a rim protector. The problem is not being able to play Reed and Giddie together. The problem is playing Sengun with either one. Giddey also does not have alligator arms so has more potential to play decent defense someday.
Most people seem to think that, it’s not just random hate. I wrote up a long thing on Jabari vs Nate Ament thread that kinda explains my perspective in detail. I just want to win.
