I just quit reading them. This thread has become that along with some of the Sheppard vs Castle Rocket threads, I just avoid them. I've learned that avoiding negative vibes is good for your health!
Does anyone have any first-year interviews with CJ? If you do, please compare them with the current interviews. Did he always say "you know" after every sentence?
Saying "you know" repeatedly after every sentence is a common sign of a cognitive-linguistic challenge or perseveration following traumatic brain injuries. The injured brain often struggles to shift thoughts smoothly, relying on the same filler phrase while searching for the next word or trying to reset focus. [1, 2, 3, 4]
I hear what you’re saying, but that’s the nature of the beast. Only one team wins each year, so the 31 other teams just refuse to pay their QB? Danny dimes got 40 mil, Trevor Lawrence got 55 mil, Murray got paid, none of them has shown they will win a Super Bowl. Sometimes you have to keep what you got because the better option isn’t feasible or affordable. Stroud at 55mil is pretty status quo.
CJ is gonna get paid and we'll all have to accept to love him ... The last handful of off-season QB contracts should've prepared us for this upcoming reality. Truly the golden age for Front office idiocy..
Yeah, I don’t think that’s really debatable honestly. Now, long term upside? That’s a different convo.
It must really bother you that Trump wouldn't be in the White House without the black vote. They understand the LBJ Plantation era politics that destroyed the black family unit in the USA.
Neither CJ or Levis are good QB's. It's Vidor Tx not Orange TX. We do work i both Orange and Vdor TX. the two cities couldn't be more different.
Sad anyone here needs to use personal attacks. Just keep the personal stuff out please. CJ is both better and worse than just about everyone's expectations here. Bottom-line, new season, new CJ, (we hope) give the brother a chance. Hope is better than despair. Wouldn't it be great if he gets the most improve, MVP and SB MVP (well not likely as someone on the defense will probably get that one), unless.... H O P E
Reports of Stroud's cliff falling have been greatly exaggerated. After the Texans extended fellow 2023 draftee Will Anderson Jr. with a top-of-market deal as soon as he was extension-eligible, eyes immediately turned to Stroud. Why haven't the Texans extended him? Do they doubt his long-term future as a starting quarterback? Would they explore moving him? Anderson is one of the three best players at his position. He plays a premium position, has been largely healthy and is coming off a career year. Stroud is one of the 15 best players at his position. He plays a premium position and has been largely healthy ... but he's not coming off a career year. Unlike Anderson, who was always going to sign an extension at the top of the edge rusher market, Stroud won't ink a deal at Patrick Mahomes' $64 million APY. With a much larger range and a much bigger overall cost come more considerations for a contract's structure and timing. I know I just said Stroud is not coming off a career year, and it's true that his rookie season was better. But not by much. Stroud's atrocious postseason run spoiled the national perspective on his talent, but by the numbers, his 2025 and 2023 seasons are fairly comparable in many key metrics -- save for explosive play rate. C.J. Stroud over the past three seasons Season EPA per dropback - Dropback success rate - QBR - Explosive play rate 2025 0.12 46.2% 61.5 13.5% 2024 0.03 42.6% 47.1 14.7% 2023 0.14 47.6% 58.3 17.5% The Stroud we all remember so fondly was a flamethrowing rookie passer in a Kyle Shanahan-inspired offense. Offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik put heavy personnel and condensed sets on the field to bluff run-action and force predictable coverages. Stroud saw base defense on 25.6% of his dropbacks as a rookie in 2023. That rate led the league and was why his explosive pass rate was so strong. Once defenses got wise to the fact that Stroud was the primary danger to address in Houston, they changed how they played the team. Stroud saw much less base defense (17.7% of dropbacks) and a significant uptick in two-high shells (51.7% as a sophomore versus 45.7% as a rookie). Slowik struggled to find answers to the defensive shift, and he was replaced by Nick Caley, who has found more success in forcing base defense and single-high coverages for Stroud to attack. But the running game is still a big issue in Houston's offense. Since Stroud entered the league, the Texans are 31st in rushing success rate and 31st in EPA per rush. He has played in an entirely unbalanced offense -- one asking the dropback game to bail out the designed running game, instead of using the modern method of a successful rushing attack to disguise and enhance the play-action passing game. Stroud has averaged 5.9 third-and-long dropbacks per game in the past two seasons, second only to Caleb Williams. He's playing the game on hard mode. None of this neatly explains Stroud's total collapse in the playoffs, nor does it guarantee improvement. The Texans have added some help to their offensive line (Wyatt Teller, Braden Smith and Keylan Rutledge) and running backds room (David Montgomery), but they must prove they can grind out a good rushing attack before Stroud's burden will be lifted. Even if that's achieved, Stroud will need a strong postseason performance to wash the taste of 2025's disaster class from everyone's mouth. But we don't need to act like we've never seen Stroud in the playoffs before. He has made the divisional round in three straight seasons. In his four postseason games prior to 2025, he averaged 0.02 EPA per dropback and a 43.4% success rate. He wasn't perfect, but he was just fine. To call him a snakebitten playoff choker is an easily disproven exaggeration. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ts-nosedives-trends-blips-smith-njigba-stroud
It's the time of year for rose colored glasses... it's time we forget that when the team needed him the most CJ gave them some of the worst QB performances in franchise history and just pretend everything will definitely be okay. Who knows, it might even be true!
Indeed, who knows, maybe a much-improved running game, where it is a more balanced offense, where the defense cannot stack for passing because there is nothing to fear on the run game, would actually mean something. I get it, everyone who hope for the best is wearing the black, not rose color glasses because we must be blind if we didn't see egg that was laid in the Pats game, the 5 fumbles Pits games looked bad but, hey, a win is a win. But then again, what's there to do if you cannot complain here, it's a long wait for the season to begin. It is a good read to see some actual numbers. Like him, hate him. He is the quarterback this season. No matter what happens. Complete bomb, then maybe next year, reset....
If he bombs, the Texans won't "reward" him with an extension, and will probably give someone else a chance. They won't be able to keep this all-world defense together for long. Got to make hay while the sun shines.
C.J. Stroud, QB, Houston Texans Reports of Stroud's cliff falling have been greatly exaggerated. After the Texans extended fellow 2023 draftee Will Anderson Jr. with a top-of-market deal as soon as he was extension-eligible, eyes immediately turned to Stroud. Why haven't the Texans extended him? Do they doubt his long-term future as a starting quarterback? Would they explore moving him? Anderson is one of the three best players at his position. He plays a premium position, has been largely healthy and is coming off a career year. Stroud is one of the 15 best players at his position. He plays a premium position and has been largely healthy ... but he's not coming off a career year. Unlike Anderson, who was always going to sign an extension at the top of the edge rusher market, Stroud won't ink a deal at Patrick Mahomes' $64 million APY. With a much larger range and a much bigger overall cost come more considerations for a contract's structure and timing. I know I just said Stroud is not coming off a career year, and it's true that his rookie season was better. But not by much. Stroud's atrocious postseason run spoiled the national perspective on his talent, but by the numbers, his 2025 and 2023 seasons are fairly comparable in many key metrics -- save for explosive play rate. Caleb Williams. He's playing the game on hard mode. None of this neatly explains Stroud's total collapse in the playoffs, nor does it guarantee improvement. The Texans have added some help to their offensive line (Wyatt Teller, Braden Smith and Keylan Rutledge) and running backds room (David Montgomery), but they must prove they can grind out a good rushing attack before Stroud's burden will be lifted. Even if that's achieved, Stroud will need a strong postseason performance to wash the taste of 2025's disaster class from everyone's mouth. But we don't need to act like we've never seen Stroud in the playoffs before. He has made the divisional round in three straight seasons. In his four postseason games prior to 2025, he averaged 0.02 EPA per dropback and a 43.4% success rate. He wasn't perfect, but he was just fine. To call him a snakebitten playoff choker is an easily disproven exaggeration. Verdict: Blip https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ts-nosedives-trends-blips-smith-njigba-stroud
