I honestly don’t get why rockets fan have this attachment to Amen, Yeah he’s a guy who plays hard and he’s definitely a guy you would want on a championship team, But he’s not the guy. He can’t shoot, can’t dribble, and doesn’t demand a double team, He’s only effective in the dunker spot or cutting to the rim. If I can Trade him and the worst out of PHX and BKN picks for a top 3 pick I’m doing it!
Yeah KD and Sengun are difficult to narrow down to a pick value. When it’s around 40m in matching salary the variance in what players you’re getting back is so wide. We just traded #10 Khaman Maluach for him and that aspect doesn’t even make the first page of the story. I just think everyone is insane for the varying degrees of Sengun, Amen, or KD gotta go. A simple Jabari for NAW straight up or with a pick gets us past the first round and changes perspectives imo.
Your obsession with canning Jabari is bordering on bobbythegreatness’ obsession with Jalen. Jabari is a fine young player on a reasonable contract give it a rest.
I’m trying to save our franchise from mass r****dation and first round exits. If you can name 1 other non center playoff starter who runs a similar speed, similar level passing, similar level handle, similar level defense on the perimeter, I’ll chill.
Scoot has had a lot of struggles with injuries that I think have held him back. He still has a lot of talent. It's an open question whether he will ever get there, but I still think he has a high ceiling, and he is only 22. I would value him right now around the level of a late lotto pick.
Best way to trade with Portland is a 3 way trade if they want KD. I wouldn't mind taking a shot on Scoot although he is an expiring contract. The rest of their roster, that they would be willing to trade, doesn't really align much with what we need and they don't have a 26 draft pick. I think if we trade KD we have to get a for sure starter back unless their is a good draft pick involved.
I wouldn't mind threatening Phoenix with a full MLE offer to Collin Gillespie and see if you couldn't negotiate a sign-and-trade for Reed. They still have a third guard (and a younger one at that), while we get a truer PG. That would then help us preserve the MLE to throw at a stretch center like Sandro Mamukelashvili.
I’d go for Jrue Holiday with 2028 Orlando first or 2028 Milwaukee swap rights or Portlands own. I know the basic repsonse will be too old, terrible contract, etc but he’s very good. Helps the guard depth, helps the communication, helps the ball pressure, helps the offense flow, can shoot, can play the 2, helps a cover Reed defense, helps the running game with amen in his natural position at forward, helps Sengun with someone that can run 2 man game with him. We all want the new 1a star but the best way to acquire that is to look competent, win a playoff series and then go for it later with leverage when Houston is at the top of list for stars that want to move. Trade would be Jabari/DFS We’d be better at the 4 without them with KD/Amen/Tari/ and Sengun in double big lineups getting the minutes.
I’d use that 2028 Orlando pick and DFS for Anthony Black. It gives Orlando an extra pick and keeps them out of the second apron. They seemed a little hasty in giving everyone max contracts and now they’ve got a mediocre team with very little maneuverability. This would keep them under the apron and give them a little wiggle room in trades to improve the team.
Yeah that’s a good name. Replace the role player power forward position with the OKC/Spurs model of combo guards that can do some of everything. Need speed, handle, passing, knock down open 3, and ability to matchup with other teams best guards at POA.
I've been gone a few days - just catching up. Maybe it's that those two are the most flawed players of the group. I'm usually ahead of the pack on things like this - long before the internet influencers start chattering about them. Take Jalen - I didn't want to draft him to begin with - gave him a chance but realized his inconsistency and said it was time to move on mid way thru year 2 - while literally everyone else was still throwing love at him, give him time.. Now all but a couple people are in my camp.
Whatever metrics you’re using to determine that Amen Thompson and Alperen Sengun are the most flawed of the group are flawed. It’s like continuing to fire Walmarts heads of loss prevention while insisting on keeping the $10 an hour greeters who are letting people walk out with carts full of merchandise because you love how they smile and say hi to people coming in (open 3 point jump shots) Some jobs are more difficult than others. Amen and Sengun are the only 2 in the group that are positive in their playoff minutes.
The metrics - this is where the eye test and statistical data merge and show that neither one of them can shoot well enough to be that "build around player" and Sengun isn't ever going to be a defensive anchor. I'm not saying that they are bad players by any stretch of the imagination - they are the teams best assets - but you ain't building a winner around them. They are both pretty good but never going to be All NBA - the dudes that get 35% max deals. If you don't have a true #1 guy, you churn assets until you get one, you don't hold assets until they lose most / all of their value. Amen on his rookie deal has some value even if he doesn't shoot all that well but Amen on a $30m+ deal is not what I'd consider a positive contract anymore, it's neutral at best, particularly if he shoots like shiiit next season and the other NBA teams come to realize he is what he is and give up on "potential" - there's no blood left to squeeze out of that rock.
Fair, I don’t disagree with the overall idea. I just evaluate differently and don’t understand the Jabari Smith Jr evaluation in the same vain, why isn’t he an asset to churn? Looks like an outsized view of the 3 point shooting angle in comparison to the current best teams and an undersized view of the dynamic speed and fluid movement advantage creation athletes that the best teams also possess. Then talking about a 7 mil difference in contract from what would place Amen at neutral to negative value. I don’t see that.
What? Andrew has started 230 out of 260 games, averaged 17 and 8 last year, started 40 out of 40 playoff games, started every game in the finals averaging over 33 mpg
