[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

The mental gymnastics to defend this pointless war started by the trump adminstration.

Went to war and nothing to show for, billions wasted, and just made iran stronger in the global stage.

We could have just not went to war and invested the money back into our country if jobs creation was such a priority.

Now we are on the hook to giving iran a sht ton of money, bc of a stupid war that should have never started in the first place.
What a dumbass.

 

Iran wants another $300 BILLION to rebuild. Trumps says our Gulf State allies (UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia) will pay. Our Gulf States allies are also paying to rebuild from Iran's bombings ... from a war that they did not start ... from a war started by the US leader that they openly bribed to look out for their best interests.

I suspect that if the Gulf States pay Iran $300 billion the US will pay the Gulf States $300+ billion for their own rebuild. Trump will want to use a ruse to make it look like the US is not paying Iran directly. The US tax payers will still pickup the bill.

The final bill for Trump's Excursion will likely be HUGE, a number never seen before:

1. Pentagon Direct Spending: $25 billion by the conclusion of major active operations. The Pentagon has sought billions more in supplemental funding to cover equipment replacements and base repairs.
2. Fuel and Consumer Costs: Researchers at Brown University and the American Enterprise Institute estimate that the resulting surge in fuel costs has added tens of billions of dollars in extra financial burden on U.S. consumers and businesses.
3. Macroeconomic Impact: Economists indicate that the conflict has contributed to inflation and constrained the Federal Reserve's ability to cut interest rates, potentially costing hundreds of billions in long-term borrowing costs for American consumers across mortgages, credit cards, and auto loans.

from Google AI Overview.

IIRC the Pentagon at first asked for $200 billion for Trump's Excursion (to pay for the day to day operations, to replenish military stockpiles, to rebuild the US bases that Iran bombed, etc) and since then has bumped that request to $500 billion for god knows what. It sure looks like the Pentagon considers $100 billion a rounding error atp.

The Google AI Overview did not address the $300 billion to rebuild Iran.

The rest of the world has also seen a rise in fuel costs and inflation caused by Trump's Excursion.

I think that the Ds should introduce a tax bill (maybe for the duration of Trump's second term) to pay for Trump's Excursion.

 

As an alleged intelligent man, why do you humiliate yourself so?

 

traitor george, stop publicizing your willful ignorance,

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces completed self-defense strikes against Iran, June 9, at the
Commander in Chief’s direction in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter.​

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PUBLI...trikes-in-response-to-irans-attack-on-apache/

 

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this spinned by those who lies

 

Iran is going to remain an Islamic Republic

from NY Post
Trump told Iranian protesters ‘help is on its way’ — but the peace deal leaves the mullahs more powerful than ever

 

I listened to about 5 minutes of Trump's flat out lies and BS being spewed today at the G7 and it was nauseating. I can't even count how many lies and narcissistic fake accomplishments I heard in that short time. What a clown. I turned off his circus act after 5 minutes.

 

Chronology of the Iran mess created by the 80 year-old convicted felon, as i see it.

Trump was losing control of the narrative on the Epstein files, to divert attention from this mess,
on 27 Feb 2026, he ordered the bombing of Iran under the false pretense of regime change

in March 2026, Iran shut down the strait of Hermuz

on Sunday, 14 Jun 2026, Trump and Iranian officials reached a memorandum of understanding (MOU),
to end a three-and-a-half-month war.

on Monday, 15 Jun 2026, as per data provided by Trump's Dept of Energy, Stocks of crude oil in the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve
fell to 340.3 million barrels, the lowest level since 1983. this points to supply tightness, foreshadowing rising oil prices.

in summary




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lmao. he is beyond brainwashed. it's a sickness.

 

@raining threes said they were 2 days away from blowing us up...
How do I say this nicely...You. Got. Played. Again.

 

I have seen some of this on social media and am not happy about it.

However, I have also seen a lot of social media comments that live in fantasy land and fail to realize that the US action in Iran has been humiliating and a loss for the USA.

Politics before reality I suppose at this point.

No, the USA is a loser.

The USA has lost standing in the Middle East - a lot of military bases have been destroyed and the USA failed to accomplish their objective. Also the sentiment amongst the Iranians is only more solidified.

That doesn't even get into the US assassinations.

Iran has suffered a lot of internal damage to their infrastructure - but they are being paid to rebuild it.

The grip that the Iranian government has in Iran is only stronger at this point.

Iran has also learned that the US will not ground invade and that Iran can withstand pressure from the US/Israel.

This is at worst a push for Iranian leadership - and likely a win.

Iran will also only see its influence in the region grow.

 

WSJ calls it: Trump is in full 'retreat'

Over the course of his two terms, the conservative newspaper The Wall Street Journal has had an uneven relationship with President Donald Trump, sometimes supporting and sometimes criticizing his moves. Now, with debates raging over the Iran peace deal, the paper’s editors have called it in no uncertain terms: Trump is in retreat, and the way forward is still fraught with risks that may warrant Congress rejecting his agreement.

As the Journal asserts, “There’s no denying that Mr. Trump is retreating from his main goals as political pressure has built at home.” While he has attempted to portray the deal as “peace in our time,” most recognize it for what it is: “a strategic retreat short of achieving his war aims.” The editors explain that rather than attempting to continue winning militarily, Trump has decided to prioritize opening the Strait of Hormuz, then figure out the other questions like nuclear enrichment later.

And as many have noted, and the Journal points out, the latest agreement isn’t really a lasting peace deal, but “extends the cease-fire for another 60 days, though our guess is that it will be renewed, perhaps many times.” This will result in the opening of the Hormuz Strait — in time for gas prices to come down, Trump hopes, before the midterms — “but Tehran says Hormuz won’t return to the status quo ante, and it claims it will charge ‘fees’ not tolls, as if that’s more than a semantic difference.” In effect, this would hand the Iranian regime both a means of enrichment and political legitimacy.

Perhaps more worrisome to the Journal editors is how the deal addresses, or fails to address, the nuclear question. As they explain, “It would defer most matters of the nuclear program to 60 more days of talks, with oil and other sanctions relief along the way in exchange for diplomatic progress. This linkage is crucial, but pushing off the most difficult nuclear issues in talks with ‘dishonorable people’ who don’t deal ‘in good faith,’ as the President called them on Friday, doesn’t inspire confidence. If the regime won’t agree to dismantle its nuclear program now, why would it do so after weeks of oil exports and other relief?”

What’s more, argues the paper, “Iran’s attestation that it doesn’t seek the bomb is meaningless. It has always said that — and done the opposite. A good deal has to remove capabilities. A promise now to find a solution for the enriched uranium over 60 days means little, unless it specifically commits Iran to removing, diluting or destroying the entire stockpile on a reasonable timetable. Merely disposing of the ‘highly enriched uranium’ doesn’t work when enrichment even to the low-seeming 3.67 percent is already 70 percent of the way to weapons-grade.”

At the same time, the current deal “includes no Iranian commitments on its missiles and terror proxies.” Instead, it puts off the matter for “regional discussions,” which the paper says no one takes seriously. As the editors note, this will either mean that Gulf allies will end up needing more military protection from the U.S., or they will be forced to “accommodate” Iran.

“Meanwhile,” writes the Journal, “allowing oil exports will rescue the regime financially, and resuming sanctions enforcement won’t be easy when Iran can threaten the deal — and the Strait — in reply. Granting the regime access to billions of dollars in frozen funds before nuclear negotiations would be another bailout. Mr. Trump’s talk of investing in Iran suggests he’s making the Barack Obama mistake of thinking the revolutionary regime wants Iran to be a normal country. There’s no evidence it does.”

But in the end, concludes the paper, “The biggest risk is if Mr. Trump sees this deal as a de facto partnership with Iran’s regime… he might overlook violations to strike the final deal or preserve it once it is signed. The people of Iran, whom Mr. Trump promised to help, would be the big losers.”

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Please pick your lie.
President Donald Trump's statements about the status of Iran's military have been somewhat contradictory. While he has frequently claimed in recent months that the U.S. has "completely destroyed" or "obliterated" Iran's military, entire navy, and air force, he has also made contrasting remarks suggesting that the U.S. has actually "left their military alone"



RASCOE: So that CIA analysis says Iran has maintained about 70% of their prewar stockpiles, and CNN last week reported that satellite images show Iran has repaired the damage to the majority of its underground missile facilities.
https://www.npr.org/2026/06/07/nx-s...-destroyed-heres-where-their-stockpiles-stand

 

LOL

 

Projection

 

Our reality has become deeply distorted. One obvious issue is that social media is not reality, yet for many people it has become indistinguishable from it. We need to be more grounded.

With very few exceptions, I doubt any Americans want America to fail. Those who make such accusations and who have a long history of extreme partisanship are more likely projecting their own feelings onto others.

 

Doesn't say HOW Congress can reject it. But I guess if the deal involves U.S. funding (hint: JCPOA didn't, which is why Congress was not involved, but partisan heads don't understand anything) or lifting Congressional sanctions, Congress can reject those.