I didn’t look at his stats this year. Seems like he lowered his TO’s. i did not say they turned over the ball equally or that their numbers are similar. I said Edwards has had issues turning the ball over in his career. I just know from watching him and his history he’s had turnover issues in both the regular season and playoffs especially the series against the Spurs and last year’s playoffs. The point is turning the ball over doesn’t necessarily preclude a player from being a good playmaker. Doncic has had issues with TO’s his entire career at 15% rate for several years and 4 a game. Can anyone say he’s not a great playmaker?
I said good I didn’t say great. And He does make plays off the drive to shooters or bigs and good for 4-5 assists a game as a 2 guard.
Ant peaked at 13, not even in the same universe. Luka did get to 15 a few times but obviously he’s light years beyond anything castle could ever dream of bey
Look, he is a very big part of their team, he is NOT a star player, but neither is REED right now. Again, both fit their teams.....imho, Reed has a much higher upside because he has the most important skill - shooting. DD
They used Castle a lot as a creator and playmaker. He puts a lot of pressure on defenses. In the playoffs Behind Fox he has the highest assist % on drives, highest pick and roll action played. He’s just behind Wemby in highest pts% off drives and %fouled on drives. Without Castle or even Fox they would have to rely on Harper as a playmaker which he hasn’t been proven that he’s as good as those 2 guys. And they would be down one player who can drive consistently and get by his man because Sheppard can’t do this. Spurs offense would be slower, less dynamic, and puts less pressure on defenses
Again this is not about comparing numbers. The point is TO’s doesn’t preclude a player from being a good playmaker. If you don’t think Castle is a good playmaker then that should be your argument which is independent of comparing TO% numbers to Edwards and doncic. Besides Edwards has had issues with TO’s period. 3 a game is high. Committing 6-7 TO’s in games is high especially in critical playoff games. Doncic avg 4 his career which is high for a 30 plus min player. And Castle also is just in his second year.
Your first comment is by far one of the best you’ve made to date. Your second one is pretty iffy. A player can be a great shooter and not be better than a player with a more balanced skill set. Luke Kennard is a career 44% 3 pt shooter. How many SG’s are better than him.
Castle had his ups and downs, but of the two I'm still taking him at the end of the day. Yes, he's a streaky shooter, but he affects the game in so many ways even when his shot isn't going down. I like Reed too and he does have a fairly high ceiling imo, but Castle would have been the right pick for the Rockets. His toughness would have fit right in with this group. And I think the team would look a bit different at this point had he been the pick.
Castle is a role player for sure (I hate his hair btw) with Wemby/Harper in starring roles for the Spurs. Castle doesn't always play great offensively but he has already had some big time playoff moments, is fearless and a helluva defender. Reed has talent but often plays timid which is just frustrating to watch. He needs to go balls out every game. FVV is injured & slowing down, Reed should be able to beat him out.
I mean not turning the ball over at historic rates is part of playmaking. Looking at the total numbers like you are is obviously silly since that doesn't take into account how much they have the ball. You should be ONLY looking at the %. Castle is a decent playmaker actually, he makes some good passes. Part of it is he's such a poor shooter and doesn't get guarded, so he kinda HAS to have the ball otherwise he just kills your spacing.
I didn’t just look at the total numbers as I mentioned turnover rate. And total numbers or avg per game is a good indicator of player performance since it tells gives you a rough idea of how well they perform given they are starters who play 30 plus min a game and likely similar touches and possessions give or take. A player can turn the ball over but if he’s still making dimes and finding shooters or interior players then he is still valuable since he has the ability to create and generate scoring. Similarly Morant is like this. That’s the whole discussion. And you agree with me that he’s a good playmaker then. He isn’t Amen. Teams guard him at the 3 since he can still shoot out there and they guard him on the perimeter as he makes his dribble drive move. He can pullup and shot 44% mid range in the reg season. He’s not some non shooter as you contend he is
