1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Reed Sheppard (2024 Rd. 1/#3 Rockets) Vs. Stephon Castle (2024 Rd. 1/#4 Spurs)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr. Dominant, May 25, 2026.

?

Who will be the overall better player when their career is over?

  1. Stephon Castle

    66.7%
  2. Reed Sheppard

    33.3%
  1. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Clutch Crew
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    36,189
    Likes Received:
    22,377
    CF is on watch tonight, I can’t imagine how upset a lot of posters are

    1-10

    Jesus Christ
     
  2. TEXNIFICENT

    TEXNIFICENT Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    8,251
    Likes Received:
    7,353
    But when is Reed going to be a star?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    73,009
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    Predictably, their favorite scrub **** the bed again. One of these days they'll learn the basics about basketball and stop embarrassing themselves, but it won't be any time soon.
     
  4. amaru

    amaru Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Messages:
    18,973
    Likes Received:
    12,416
    A JJ Reddick plus?
     
    Stephen_A likes this.
  5. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,692
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    This is interesting, but doesn't necessarily tell the entire story. Reed got a lot of his open looks by taking Curry-esque deep threes, which is something those Spurs shooters simply don't do.

    From 22 to 27 feet:
    Sheppard: 184 / 446 (41.3%)
    Champagnie: 193 / 499 (38.7%)
    Vassell: 159 / 405 (39.3%)
    Fox: 123 / 372 (33.1%)

    From 28+ feet:
    Sheppard: 43 / 130 (33.1%)
    Champagnie: 1 / 8 (12.5%)
    Vassell: 3 / 18 (16.7%)
    Fox: 5 / 16 (31.3%)

    So Reed made more threes (43) from 28+ feet than all three Spurs shooters attempted as a group (35). If Reed got more open looks from that 22-27 foot range and didn't have to launch from the logo as often, you'd absolutely see a bump in his efficiency.
     
  6. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    27,568
    Likes Received:
    16,148
    You got @Stephen_A head spinning reading this.
     
  7. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    61,956
    Likes Received:
    74,362
  8. bustamove

    bustamove Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2024
    Messages:
    1,940
    Likes Received:
    1,690
    are those playoff numbers?
     
  9. RB713

    RB713 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2024
    Messages:
    7,857
    Likes Received:
    11,146
    Stephon Apart


    No ment
     
  10. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,932
    Likes Received:
    8,887
    Yup
     
    LosPollosHermanos likes this.
  11. Damion Laverne

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    2,956
    He’s on Brent Price watch
     
  12. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,488
    Likes Received:
    5,247
    This is why the Spurs wanted Reed paired with Wemby. Some people convinced themselves otherwise though.
     
  13. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    23,648
    Likes Received:
    23,855
    There is something to be said for, Reed truly spaces the floor in a way that Castle never will. Whatever else he ends up being, I do think that will continue to be the case, even if Castle has a better career overall. And there's nothing the Rockets needed more than floor-spacing, which is why almost everyone was onboard with the pick at the time.

    Just still not seeing the point guard skills or defense you'd like from him to be more than a 6th man. Hopefully he'll develop in those areas this offseason and come back strong
     
    topfive likes this.
  14. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    22,297
    Likes Received:
    37,472
    Watching what Jalen Brunson "eventually" turned himself into should make fans feel better about a player Reed's size ever becoming an impact player. He was still at Villanova at Reed's age, and then spent 2 seasons as a decent bench player before he started ascending to star level. I'm sure people will run to say what Reed can't do compared to him "now", but nobody watching Brunson his second year in the NBA ever thought this guy is gonna lead a team to a title.

    Reed is still only 21 and he showed significant growth in year 2, how about we just chill out on him being a waste of pick bust. I really don't give a f**k about Castle, he's not a Rocket and worrying about the past doesn't really mean anything to the present.
     
  15. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,692
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    Yes, Reed shot 576 threes in his 6 games vs the Lakers.
     
    LosPollosHermanos and bustamove like this.
  16. 9baller

    9baller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2013
    Messages:
    2,069
    Likes Received:
    3,089
    Reed will lead us to the promised land!
     
    the11mingdynasty likes this.
  17. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,692
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    Player A (first two seasons)
    134 games (20.9 mpg)
    .414 / .383 / .804 (.544 TS)
    10.0 ppg / 2.4 rpg / 2.6 apg (1.2 to) / 1.2 spg / 0.5 bpg

    Player B (first two seasons)
    130 games (20.1 mpg)
    .467 / .352 / .759 (.551 TS)
    8.8 ppg / 2.3 rpg / 3.2 apg (1.2 to) / 0.5 spg / 0.1 bpg

    Player A is Reed.

    Player B is Jalen Brunson, who was two years older.

    :eek:
     
  18. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,381
    Likes Received:
    6,522
    What you said is interesting for sure but not all 3 pointers are 22 ft. (Only corners). What did you use to get these numbers?

    3 pointers that aren’t corners are 23 ft 9 inches so that’s greater than 23 ft.

    You are assuming all his 28 ft jumpers are wide open or generated by himself which isn’t true. Some of those shots were contested. Many of those shots were generated from the offense giving him open or wide open looks.

    That’s why I looked at his open % and he only shot 32% when open.

    He also shot poorly with a defender close by (tight-32%)

    The link below shows all his shots and you can filter the distances which i did for 28 ft.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CF=SHOT_DISTANCE*E*28&CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FG3A&GameID=&PlayerID=1642263&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular Season&TeamID=&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game
     
  19. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,381
    Likes Received:
    6,522
    no
     
  20. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    23,648
    Likes Received:
    23,855
    One thing to note is that the league average when three point shots are tightly contested is right around 32%. Those shots rarely get taken in the first place, because when they do, the percentage is lower than normal. So, shooting 32% on tightly contested shots isn't bad, it's just OK.
     
    Stephen_A likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now