after the numbers Rollins put up this season in heavy min on high volume, he’s starting to make me a believer. I think he turns the ball over too much, but he defends and if the shooting is real, he’s a very good young player. I’d need to see it another season to feel really comfortable. But if he has another great season he’s not gonna be available. I have read that the org is very attached to him though because he’s one of the few players left that they feel like they unearthed and developed. Like the way Stone feels about Tate if he was actually good.
I like Rollins a lot. Two-way point guards who can knock down high-volume three pointers aren't common. I would love to get him, but I suspect you're right and they seem him more as a part of their impending rebuild than a guy to go get assets for. Still, he is an example of the kind of player we need to be looking to trade for. You have to find these young guys before they reach their peak years, not wait until they get there and it costs an arm and a leg to acquire them.
You never know. He might be available depending on theur moves and who they draft. A lot lf smoke about Mikel Brown Jr to tge Bucks. High usage point. Then they need to decide on where they are sitting with "soup" [KPjr]. If the mythical trade with Miami eventuates, then Herro is part of that guard rotation right away. Rollins has a PO for next year. If he is stuck behind Brown and Herro he would most likely walk - so the Bucks might prefer to turn him into two 2nd rounders now rather than lose him for nothing. [A lot of ifs in there!]
The entire lineup is your floor general if you just replace Jabari with Jrue Holiday. Fred, Jrue, KD, Amen, and Sengun can all handle and pass. Speed goes up, IQ goes up. Matchups shift and get easier, Shooting is the same but openness goes up. Defense gets better. I don’t care if majority thinks Jrue is old and overpaid and Jabari is young and on a great contract. The majority is wrong. We can draft new Jabari’s that don’t make starter money and lock us into to a sub optimal style of play.
The guy I have in mind is by no means a floor general. He's more of a small shooting guard actually, but I think adding a third guard who can self-create and apply scoring pressure from the bench would help just as much as a secondary playmaker since I think Fred is here to stay. So, I'm kind of interested in Collin Sexton as a 6th man of sorts. And then you just gotta hope that Fred still knows how to dribble, pass and shoot at a decent level while also being able to slide his feet on the defensive end.
Seriously. FVV shooting high volume 3s is not what we need, precisely because he's merely an average shooter.
Acquiring young guys before they reach their prime who are not known to be likely good is very tough. There are going to be a lot of misses. I am very much in favor of this. The best way to do this is getting a lot of FRPs, and improving those picks with swaps. It allows a team to add vets without affecting ability to get young players much before the young players cost a ton. I expect that last sentence gives you heartburn.
Fred is really a backup pg, but on this team, he makes the game way easier for Şengün. As well as the rest of the team.
FVV may be backup quality when he comes back. Even looking solely at offense, he was top 25ish among PGs in 24-25.
Wolves picked up a guy like Rollins. Spurs scooped up a guy like Champagnie. OKC got a guy like Ajay Mitchell. All we got are the likes of Nix, Christopher, Nate Williams, Whitmore, and Newton. And we are still crying about not having quality guard depth.
I’ve floated that idea several times. Lots of things would have to happen. Giannis would have to want to return to the Bucks, Bucks would want to retain Giannis, and no other team would offer a better return. Rollins and even Cormac are pretty hot commodities for teams looking for 3 point shooting. I would do it in a second if it is possible. Portis will be expiring in 28 and Kuzma expiring this year and both are useful bench players. I would throw Reed and one of our 27 picks in if the Bucks would throw their 26 pick into the mix.
If FVV and KD are on your team, you are not speeding anything up. They are both ball stoppers. Getting rid of Jabari is ok for the right return, if you are also getting rid of Kd, FVV, and possibly Sengun.
And Rollins wasn't enough to make up for ANT's injury. Neither would have Ayo had he stayed healthy. Sometimes it is just like that.... Quality depth doesn't always fill the gap.
I disagree. There’s lots of lineup flexibility. Reed Jrue Amen Tari Sengun Is fast. You still got Adams for a completely different look. I personally think Fred (pre injury) and Alpi can play fast or slow, I’ve seen them do it. KD is KD. You’re still gonna need a bucket. Still have player value equity and future draft stuff to improve upon that.
I'm pretty checked out on Stone and point guards. His comment about not acquiring a PG "just to get one" to set the offense if they can't defend or shoot just flushed any faith in him I had down the commode. He thought it would be a better idea to "cobble together" a point guard with Thompson (who can't shoot), and Shepperd (who can't defend), and neither of which could set the offense either.
Yeah I thought that comment was pretty weird. He didn't want to get a PG who couldn't defend or shoot, but he's been relying on two PGs one can't shoot and one can't defend.
Hard to argue many things went our way. I understand it's disappointing but Rollins or Ty Jerome weren't going to save our season with FVV out the entire year. I get it, it's much easier to create a false, comforting reality then to accept actual reality.
It was a mind-bogglingly stupid comment. The only way it makes sense (and I have said it elsewhere) is if he already has an offseason move in place and couldn’t find a move at the deadline that didn’t disrupt it. And it would have to be a doozy of a move to completely flush your current season to make sure it happens.
