1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Reed Sheppard (2024 Rd. 1/#3 Rockets) Vs. Stephon Castle (2024 Rd. 1/#4 Spurs)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr. Dominant, May 25, 2026.

?

Who will be the overall better player when their career is over?

  1. Stephon Castle

    66.3%
  2. Reed Sheppard

    33.7%
  1. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877
    Castle is not a gravity creator at this juncture in his career, but where in what I wrote did I say that Wemby doesn't factor in?

    He hits the open shots at a decent clip and plays elite defense. Additionally he gets to the rim. His turnovers are an issue and he's allowed to make mistakes.

    Reed's size is not going to change and for Reed to be a legit rotational player he needs to have an elite skill. His shooting is not quite to that level yet but it could be.

    Castle will likely make multiple all star games and maybe as soon as next season and this is partly due to playing with Wemby. Reed will likely be the 7th man and playing off the bench next year.
     
  2. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    17,623
    Likes Received:
    23,686
    Reed’s biggest problem is his handle. Reed has middie handles. If the handles don’t improve a lot he’s a bust. It’s as simple as that. You don’t draft undersized guards without really good handles. Reed can shoot, but if he can’t get his own shot, he’s a role player off the bench. That’s it. Need to see big improvement in the handles next season. I’m very disappointed in rockets scouting. They seem to ignore the handles on all of their draft picks. This has become a trend. A freaking scary trend. It’s why our team can’t dribble. It’s why we are so overly reliant on Fred, which is laughable.
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  3. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    Dude castle hasn't even taken 100 3s in the playoffs. It's not a small size, it's a teeny tiny meaningless sample size and all other data suggests it's certainly a fluke.
     
  4. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    I didn't realize it wasn't completely obvious i was just trolling the troll.....
     
    DaDakota likes this.
  5. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877
    Reed took 142 his rookie season to Castle's 94 in the playoffs.

    Castle, like i said, is not the better shooter.

    Castle, like i said, is the better player.

    Would Reed be better in San Antonio? Probably.

    Would Castle be worse in Houston? probably.

    Right now they aren't even close as players, time will tell but you are a degrading weirdo.
     
    astrosrule likes this.
  6. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    Degrading weirdo lol, never heard that one
     
  7. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877
    my vocabulary is immense and my patience for being referred to as a mere troll is minuscule.
     
    StrawberryJamm and astrosrule like this.
  8. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    No i like it! It's a good one
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  9. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877
    I think Reed will be fine btw. I didn't mean to come off as a troll

    I just cannot stand this front office passing on players because of KPJ, Christian Wood, FVV and Jalen Green. This most recent article is just another example of how inept the organization is.

    Stone is in over his head and there's no one to check him. This team needs to bring in a strong president of operations more than any of us can imagine. I listened to portions of Presti's end of season press conference and I was incredibly jealous that this franchise is what it is.
     
    LosPollosHermanos likes this.
  10. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    Reed's entire rookie season i railed against people who were saying he can't shoot based on some completely miniscule, meaningless sample. Even that tiny sample (which clearly this season was proved to have been meaningless) was over 50% more than castle's playoffs. Reed had 5 playoff games this season, to use THAT as some sort of data is pure trolling and nothing more, and i will always take it as trolling, because it simply can't be anything else. I'm not a stone fan, i don't think he's particularly good, but i think in the long run reed over castle will end up being good.
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  11. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Clutch Crew
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    36,193
    Likes Received:
    22,385
    How silly do you have to be to use a couple game aggregate during a hodgepodge lakes series where everybody was running around like a headless chicken

    oh that’s right, let’s ignore the 82 games before that. Yup. Let’s cherry pick out argument that way

    outside of playing lower seed teams castle has not played well in the playoffs even
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  12. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877
    Yea pulling Reed's playoff numbers was a bit tongue in cheek, agreed. I hope Reed ends up the better player and there is a 5% he hits his ceiling and that could end up being an all star level guy.
     
    LosPollosHermanos likes this.
  13. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Clutch Crew
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    36,193
    Likes Received:
    22,385
    Good chance castle will be the better player

    I don’t understand why people are acting like he’s Kawhi though. If we drafted him he would have been another Marcus morris imo with development here
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  14. Fulgore

    Fulgore Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    19,634
    Likes Received:
    20,622
    Castle is a smart man
     
    zeeshan2 and Aruba77 like this.
  15. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    How would castle play here? You could NEVER run out castle/amen/alpi or castle/amen/adams because you simply can't play 3 non shooters. He's so much worse around the rim then Amen is that it wouldn't make sense to really give him the ball when Amen is on the court, and they would really kill each other's spacing.
     
    treyk3 likes this.
  16. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,118
    Likes Received:
    16,877

    Castle/Harper/Fox are all three guards who cannot shoot very well and Mitch Johnson found their minutes.

    I'm 100% of the mindset you take the best player available in the draft especially top 5 and figure out the fit later.

    I'm not sure how good Castle can be, but I agree, he would definitely be worse here.

    Reed may be averaging 20PPG on 50/40/90 in SA right now and we would be mad at that.

    Wemby being on the court opens up a lot of room for other player's flaws to be a nonfactor.
     
    #436 treyk3, Jun 10, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2026
  17. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,735
    Likes Received:
    19,032
    SA likes to play defense and have players that can drive to the hoop. Reed would hardly see the court.
     
    Reeko likes this.
  18. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,933
    Likes Received:
    8,890
    I can check later but I’m pretty sure those 3 almost never played together. My point is what would people be saying if the rockets drafted castle?
    Why did stone draft ANOTHER non shooter???
    Stone needs to be fired, why did he reach for this guy and not go BPA?????
    This guy is just a crappy Amen, what a stupid pick!!!
     
  19. JW86

    JW86 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,616
    Likes Received:
    12,128
    Even if true, that’s not why we didn’t take him. If this is Rockets PR then pathetic attempt.
     
  20. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    61,972
    Likes Received:
    74,391

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now