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Predictions into what will happen with AI

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, May 17, 2026.

  1. Amiga

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    Indian court: "legible medical prescription is a fundamental right". They took it seriously, from a case that actually had nothing to do with prescription.

    No more scribbles: Indian court tells doctors to fix their handwriting

    Justice Puri said when he looked at the medico-legal report - written by a government doctor who had examined the woman - he found it incomprehensible.

    "It shook the conscience of this court as not even a word or a letter was legible," he wrote in the order.

    "At a time when technology and computers are easily accessible, it is shocking that government doctors are still writing prescriptions by hand which cannot be read by anybody except perhaps some chemists," Justice Puri wrote.

    The court asked the government to include handwriting lessons in the medical school curriculum and set a two-year timeline for rolling out digitised prescriptions.

    Until that happens, all doctors must write prescriptions clearly in capital letters, Justice Puri said.
     
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    While the energy cost are bothersome
    the Polluting of Water is more concerning

    Why is the water poisonous/polluted after they use it

    Rocket River
     
  4. No Worries

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    Domain experts having to spend time to root out flawed proofs is a cautionary tale. AI likely can generate more flawed proofs faster than the domain experts can keep up with.


    Mathematicians Warn of AI Threats to Profession As Industry Encroaches

    A new Leiden Declaration, endorsed by the International Mathematical Union and published on June 2, 2026, warns that AI could undermine mathematics by flooding the field with plausible but flawed proofs, weakening attribution, shifting incentives, and giving tech companies too much influence over research priorities. "Mathematicians should find it quite striking that tech companies are suddenly interested in their work," said Kevin Buzzard, a mathematician at Imperial College London, in a statement. "The Leiden Declaration is a well-thought-through response to what is currently happening, as AI continues to disrupt this space." Ars Technica reports:

     
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    Here's one of the many problems with Gen AI and the way it's basically been foisted upon us by the same insulated from consequences class of oligarchs that installed Trump

    This is a COST - AI slop papers are now all over academia. The people who have to pay that cost are mathematicians in this instance, most of whom had nothing to do with it.

    The beneficiary is Jensen Huang because people buy his GPUs to write slop papers

    People like to talk about disruption as if it's just new competitors in the market and things working fine.

    Nothing could be further from the truth in this instance. It's a giant misalignment of costs and incentives - a system that relies on massive amounts of external costs to be borne by many to enrich a tiny few isn't capitalism - it's THEFT. It's slavery. The tech oligarchs and SV libertarians are the least capitalist, most freedom hating pieces of **** on the planet.
     
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    AI assistants have a slop bar, of whether something is feasible or plausible ... versus whether or not something is correct. This might get down to how the AI assistant is trained :shrug: ... or ... might just be the limit of the current technology.

    It is like we need an AI assistant that returns correctness/confidence grades on content (like AI slop) so a human reviewer would have guideposts to reviewing content.
     
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  8. SamFisher

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    I have to work with this junk all the time and my firmly held design conviction is that an AI assistant should *assist* the user using the website and *not* serve as a tech demo for C suite dopes to show their boards. Can it absorb the context of the page or task & surface something you might not otherwise get? Great. Less clicks, less time is better. Is it the best tool for every task (search, known item retrieval) - hell to the ****in no!

    There's undoubtedly use cases -you're right at some point humans have to be in the loop and having to review code or a document you didn't read or write ends up taking as much or more time than DIY.

    I think a lot of the problem is that since VC monopolists are basically subsidizing slop generation now there is simply so much more of it. If this stuff were priced according to it's actual cost, people would be a lot more skeptical of its value
     
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    It doesn't pollute the water but introduces tons of heat back into the water ecosystem which impacts wildlife.

    The water thing can be overcome with close loop systems. That's just requires a little bit of regulation and money. The main issue is energy and the green house gases and heat that come with it.
     
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    You are going to like this ...

    Adding closed loops for water consumption is feasible but more costly.

    Why should billionaires have to pay for water when they can use OPM?

    The Ds should fight the Rs on this issue. The Ds should make AI data centers use closed water systems. full stop. The Rs wanted to keep the 1% happy and could not give sh*ts for the rest of us.
     
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    The real issue is power. The Texas grid already has issues. We paid billions for snowmageddon. Now they want to put datacenters that consume as much power as small towns on it? Did we build more power plants in the last few years that I don't know about?
     
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    Because billionaires are not building data centers, corporations are. And do you know who owns corps? Everyone with a 401k for starters
     
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    These new data centers require new energy generators - there is not enough energy on the current grid to sustain this much demand.
    Do you know where a lot of this energy is coming from? Those Bitcoin mining operations that spent billions building new generators to power them, the same operations you claimed to be boiling the oceans and would drive costs up and a complete waste of energy. Looks like you were wrong again as these facilities retool for data centers.

    The reality is the more energy generators are create and more energy brought to the market, prices trend downwards.

    Instead, you keep propegating FUD and try to slow down innovation.
    Do you know who wants us to slow down our AI pace? China. You keep propegating Chines propaganda.
     
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    Calling in @JuanValdez for thoughts and opinions on this
     
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    Good post, DD. Especially with respect to universal basic income.

    A good short book on these issues.

    Four Futures: Life After Capitalism
    Book by Peter Frase

    Four Futures: Life After Capitalism by Peter Frase explores four potential post-capitalist societies—Communism, Rentism, Socialism, and Exterminism—shaped by the forces of automation and climate change. Using social theory and science fiction, Frase maps these futures on two axes: abundance/scarcity and equality/hierarchy, arguing that the outcome is not predetermined and depends on political struggle. The book serves as a framework for imagining and fighting for a better future beyond capitalism.
     
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    I would pass a law, that any data center has to supply it's own utilities.....no public utilities.

    DD
     
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    Idk, I hope it works out. I don't expect more blackouts, actually fewer. But I do anticipate some higher prices.

    First I would say data centers have high load factor demand, meaning there isn't a lot of volatility in usage/hour. That's good for the grid because it can support the generation built for it and in an emergency the data center can be curtailed and the power from the plant diverted. That is currently the plan in Texas. Big picture, making the total capacity on ERCOT bigger makes blackouts less likely. PUCT has set policy to address impacts because they don't want voters getting the bill, but it is still business friendly. I think free market principles tell you everyone will see a price increase.

    But getting the regulatory policy right in each state is going to be important. Data centers have money and seem willing to pay their own way. So you need tariffs that make sure they pay all the costs they cause both for infrastructure upgrades and for power plants. The utility industry is literally built to account for cost causality, so I'm not too worried on that side. On generation, we need to insist on Bring Your Own Generation, but even then it will have some upward pressure on price because new returns on capital will set the market for all gen investors.

    Maybe simply because I know much less about water, I'm more worried about it. The power side might be bumpy but I think we can handle it and it may end up a good thing overall from a grid perspective. But on water I'm not confident we will be as bullish on regulations to make them do closed loop systems and remediate damage and everything else we should be on top of them for.
     
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    Space Cadet needs to think before parroting false narratives,
    "unlimited supply of money supply", the US economy dealt w that when
    • FDR created "credit facilities" to fund infrastructure projects lift the dying US economy out of the ashes.
      • this was ~40 years before we had computer, ~~90 years before OPUS 4.8
    • Obama, via helicopter pilot Bennake, implement QE to save the dying US economy, the result of W's incompetence
      • this was ~~18 years ago
    in both instances, the added supply of money in circulation
    • added stability to the economy / containing uncertainty
    • leading to sustained GDP growth
    in only "Stack Hodler" would specify the so-called 'volnerability'; he didn't because he has no idea what he is talking about.
     
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    Texas Grid Flags Risks As Data Centers, Crypto Sites Fail Voltage Tests

    Several large data centers and crypto facilities planning to connect to the Texas power grid ahead of peak summer demand have failed key reliability tests, raising the risk of power outages just as electricity use hits its seasonal high, according to the state grid operator... Unlike traditional industrial customers, which tend to draw electricity steadily and predictably, data centers are engineered to cut their connection to the grid at the first sign of trouble to protect their equipment and keep services running. That makes them an unpredictable and potentially destabilizing force on grids already under pressure from rising demand. Four groups of unnamed large electricity users, including data centers, abruptly disconnected from the Texas grid during a test of how they would handle routine voltage disturbances, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) said in a report dated May 21.

    When large customers abruptly cut their power use, it can knock the grid off balance and trigger wider outages. ERCOT, which manages electricity for most of Texas, said it reviewed about 20 gigawatts of large customers seeking to connect to the system, including eight projects totaling roughly 3.9 gigawatts aiming to start up before July 1. It said it identified four groups of large power users that could each trigger more than 5,000 megawatts of demand tripping under certain fault conditions, based on simulations of transmission system disturbances. Those abrupt drops in demand were equivalent to the electricity consumption of a large city such as Boston.
     

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