1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

6/6/2026 - Would the Military fire on US Citizens?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Jun 6, 2026 at 7:58 AM.

?

Would the Military fire on US Citizens?

  1. Absolutely!!!

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  2. Abosolutely NOT!!!

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  3. 50/50

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  4. Unlikely

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  5. Probable

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    67,162
    Likes Received:
    34,719
    6/6/2026 - Would the Military fire on US Citizens?

    Obviously they will - in small levels
    but I mean if The president order them to "take a city:
    or 'put down' a protest?

    Not Cops . . .. the actual military
    Could a president hold power through force in the US?

    Rocket River
     
  2. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

    Joined:
    May 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,221
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    ICE agents already have...so I'm sure some of the military would if given the order and cover that it's a legal order.

    If you mean would a unit level a city like you always see in a zombie film, but it's just a no kings protest, probably not......yet.
     
  3. The Captain

    The Captain Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    39,698
    Likes Received:
    39,446
    Most vets I know would want to punch you for lumping in ICE with military.

    They also deeply understand what a cluster**** Trump has been for the government, the military and the republic.
     
  4. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    19,291
    Likes Received:
    9,258
    Where do people get these dumb fantasies? Ya watch too much TV

    First, go ask a vet if they would shoot their neighbor.

    Secondly, in order for the military to get involved, it would require a very heavily armed force. I'm not talking about a couple hundred red necks with ARs. Such a force would not materialize as the government would stop them early on.
    And we are far from a civil war.

    Some if you need to get off the internet and get to know your neighbors. The vast majority of people are normal middle of the road people, not the weird extremist found in these forums and internet
     
    Tomstro likes this.
  5. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

    Joined:
    May 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,221
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    I'm not conflating the two.
    I'm just saying that I believe a few members in the military would, if given the order, shoot at civilians, in the legs as suggested by Trump.

    Occupying a city under something like martial law with a shoot on sight curfew without good justification, probably not.
     
  6. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    57,433
    Likes Received:
    157,551
    Do they tho? If an election was held tomorrow, and Trump was on the ballot yet again, he’d get 60-70% of the vet vote. 65% of them voted for him in 2024 even after Jan 6th. Hell, a lot of them were there storming the Capitol. Maybe you’re just lucky to only know that 30%.

    I think a number of military personnel would definitely fire on US citizens if given the order. We know white nationalist have infiltrated. A lot of them probably fall for the culture war BS too
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    110,996
    Likes Received:
    115,780
  8. CCorn

    CCorn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    22,699
    Likes Received:
    23,847
    If we count Ice as the presidents personal militia, which it is, then for sure.
     
  9. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    60,700
    Likes Received:
    55,563
  10. Newlin

    Newlin Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    9,564
    Likes Received:
    12,580
    Some military would, but some wouldn’t. The Pete Hegseth types are out there and would love to shoot people.
     
  11. No Worries

    No Worries Wensleydale Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    34,680
    Likes Received:
    23,262
    I suspect that Neil Young believes that the military would.


     
    ROCKSS and B-Bob like this.
  12. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    20,316
    Likes Received:
    17,755
    Issuing that order would be a serious roll of the dice.

    Maybe they shoot. Maybe they don't. I imagine it comes down to the actual people on the ground pulling the trigger. If they don't, though - if Trump issued that order and the military revolted - Trump would be cooked.

    If Trump wanted to do that, his best bet would be to hand-select a cadre of the biggest MAGA nuts and total psychos in the military to be his goon squad and put them all together in the same unit. If you could hand-pick and vet a select group, I'm 100% certain you could create a group of like-minded types, I'm 100% sure you could put together a unit that'd do whatever the hell the President ordered.

    If you are only pulling from the 1% most antisocial fanatical individuals in the military, 100%, no problem.

    If you just call up a random group of the lowest skilled National Guard infantrymen like at Kent State, I suspect the outcome would be much more unpredictable.
     
  13. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    23,768
    Likes Received:
    14,092
    I hope so. There are also lots of vets and people currently in the military that love him.
     
    AkeemTheDreem86 likes this.
  14. JHarden713

    JHarden713 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2014
    Messages:
    3,233
    Likes Received:
    1,592
    Maybe some that are super loyal to the government. Most are not, they're there for patriotism, family line, benefits, money etc. n don't give 2 craps about the government. So therefore no, its unlikely that the US military would shoot its own people even if its ordered by the government. The founding fathers were aware of it, because of Rome, thats why its set up the way it is.
     
  15. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    36,663
    Likes Received:
    38,531
     
  16. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    23,768
    Likes Received:
    14,092
    For those who think it can't happen. Think of what has happened to the FBI and the DOJ in the last 2 years. They used to be full of stand up people who believed in doing the right thing. Eventually, they start getting pushed out and then the rest quit because of the toxic environment, and all is left is people who are either horrible or just following orders. The DOD is doing that now also by pushing out generals and blocking promotions. Eventually all the stand up guys leaders just don't want to fight anymore and they recruit a bunch of white Jan 6 types that would storm the capitol building to replace them.
     
  17. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    27,149
    Likes Received:
    26,037
    Yes

    Past, present, and likely future.

    Framed as “security” but that label stretches.

    What gets labeled as a “security threat” keeps expanding... now including cartels, cyber threats, etc. And with MAGA not caring at all for due process, it’s reasonable to expect that this expands further.
     
    #17 Amiga, Jun 8, 2026 at 3:57 PM
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2026 at 4:02 PM
    AkeemTheDreem86 likes this.
  18. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    31,060
    Likes Received:
    7,783
    This has probably been the thinking of plenty of countries, before it happened. You would have to have near total loyalty within the ranks, and be able to successfully paint the people you wish dead as the enemy. It isn't about whether you would shoot your neighbor, but rather attack a group of random people you've never known that you are told is evil.
     
  19. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,680
    Likes Received:
    16,235
    If some do while others do not, that still counts as military firing in citizens. I don't see how this is even a debate. Of they would. National Guard fired on Kent State students even without a presidential order.

    When socialists took over Paris in 1870 and established the Paris Commune, the army brought non-Parisians to violently suppress it, figuring Parisian soldiers might balk. For the provincial soldiers, it was apparently not a problem. In 1985, police bombed a townhouse in Philly because the occupants were 'dangerous radicals.' Obama missile-striked a US citizen al Qaeda fighter and most people were fine with it. I really don't think getting people to other their fellow citizens and then filling them full of lead is all that hard. If the target is bigger, the gaslighting of the soldiers has to increase with it, but that's nothing the feds can't manage.
     
    Rocket River likes this.
  20. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    4,214
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    A stupid thread started by a rettarded resident D&D racist. Lol
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now