[CHRON] To Van Gundy, lack of praise beats feint praise

You are exactly right.

 

Tmac & Yao should have a private meeting with JVG and let him know about their concerns.

They should tell him point blank what they expect, and if JVG does not adapt, they should tell him they will request that he be canned.

Direct and to the point...with us or against us coach....

Magic did it, Jordan did it, Shaq & Kobe did it...happens all the time.

Time for our 2 leaders to step up and lead.

DD

 

Better yet, go straight to CD and Les. But I definitely agree with you. If they're not happy with JVG's system, they need to step up and say something, otherwise, as Yao said, They are just wasting their time.

 

I can't really see the Rockets winning another game this year with Van Gundy as the coach. They aren't playing hard for him anymore.

 

The one (Yao) playing hard got critisized. Whenever he got
5 off rebs, you know he was playing hard bu simply was put
in a no-win situation for def rebs.

 

Then T-MAC needs to tell YAO what he's gotta do. I hope YAO is smart enough to figure it out.

 

"I don't have a time frame for when we're going to trust him and do what he wants to do," McGrady said. "But I'm a firm believer in his system. I really believe it's going to work. We just need to buy into it."

How come nobody highlighted this quote from McGrady? Because it doesn't fit into the "JVG sucks" or "T-Mac whines like Franics" angles?

 

Mr. Clutch,

I think Tmac is refering to the whole team.

DD

 

What else is he going to say? I'm not saying he doesn't mean it, but he's not going to say he doesn't believe in it.

He may not have a time frame for when he's going to trust him but Les probably does, and JVG does for sure.

 

He specifically referred to his system.

Gucci: he could say nothing at all if he didn't like JVG's system. He doesn't have to endorse it.

I am not a huge fan of JVG, but I am not going to start blindly bashing him like many on this board are doing.

 

Mr. Clutch,

I can not stand JVG.

I think he over coaches, lacks creativity, and is too demanding.

Sometimes you have to let boys be boys, and see what happens.

Set the rules, but for crying out loud allow some room for creativity.

DD

 

Whether or not T-Mac believes it, the quote is irrelevant.

The clock keeps ticking. The dreams that came with the T-Mac deal (50-wins, home court advantage in the playoffs) are already on the verge of being out of reach. "Not having a time frame" means it is likely to keep going for awhile, and starts putting even modest goals (45-wins, 7th seed) in doubt.

 

While JVG is right about the lack of rebounding and defense. He must understand he is not putting the team in the position to do a better job.

If he puts 2 avg rebounders like Yao and MoT together for long stretches, or uses Padgett or Spoon instead of Deke, how can he expect them to out-rebound the opponents?

The defense rotation also requires Yao to help any penetration and pick and pulls him so far out from the paint. If you don't have the PF (like MoT with zero reb in 29 mins) or G (like Steve) pulling down the rebound, of course you have problem.

We also have a slow team that has not rotated on help defense very well and also come back to box out. How does he expect slow players to suddenly become faster?

 

Through effort, a desire to win. Come on, you can't seriously say that these guys have shown any heart through the last couple of games and I don't think that you can put that all on JVG.

 

First, I want to say I support JVG as long as he is the coach of the Rockets. I wish him the best luck, beat the Mavs tonight.

Now that is out of the way, let's look at his comments regards Yao's defensive rebounding/effort/defense.

Yao played 41min, got 5 offensive rebounds, had 5 fouls, how could that be "lack of effort"?

About the defensive rebounding, what can you do when you were guarding a quick PF 15 ft away from the basket, especially, with the coach demanding you to double team PnR outside 3pt line? How in the world for a 7'6" guy to run back to get the rebound when he was that far away? Shouldn't the coach adjust his defensive scheme to prevent that from happening?

Can JVG enlight everyone how Yao should guard A. McDyess 15ft away from the basket 1on1? Why couldn't we have a mixed zone and man-on-man, instead of strickly man-on-man?

 

Efffort, desire, heart are nice words. They do provide the extra boost but they do not make up to the physical deficiency if they are too great.

Go and try to out run Michael Johnson with effort, desire and heart.

Let's say you have effort, desire, heart but you are slow. You come up against fast guys that also put out effort , desire and heart? What do you think will happen?

Did I put everything on JVG?

 

Well, if you can dive & grab a guy by his leg, maybe you have a chance. Just maybe.

 

So the players are asked what it is that's hindering them, and each one says the fear of making mistakes. Wouldn't you think JVG would realize he needs to change the cause of this problem? Instead he says it's not the problem. This guy sure does have a thick skull!! Also, his mention that he doesn't feel the need of any positive support at this time reflects his attitude towards motivation. JVG is definitely one that like to rule with the stick, and not the carrot.....which is obviously not working for our players.

 

well.....we are deffinetly hitting an all time low.

 

it's such a cliche? yeah, all his players keep saying it and it just also happens to appear to be very true when you watch the games, but nah, it's a cliche.



destroying francis, yao, and tmac ain't caused by cliches.