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A cold war, on the technology front, has been brewing between China and USA

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  1. adoo

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    on Dec 2025,

    TikTok signs deal to divest its U.S. operations after years of uncertainty



    Today,



    China has blocked Meta’s attempt to buy one of the world’s most high-profile AI startups.

    The unwinding of the $2 billion acquisition of Manus, which is based in Singapore but was founded in China, comes as Chinese authorities attempt to prevent US firms from taking local talent and intellectual property.

    The National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) said on Monday it would “prohibit foreign investment in Manus in accordance with laws and regulations, and requires the parties involved to withdraw the acquisition transaction.”​
     
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    Manus first gained global attention last year after its researchers claimed to have developed the “world’s first” fully autonomous AI agent.

    The general-purpose AI was designed to carry out a variety of tasks independently, from booking holidays to developing video games.

    Manus co-founder Yichao Ji described it as “the next evolution of AI” when he first shared a demo video of its abilities last March.




    https://apnews.com/article/china-meta-manus-ai-acquisition-5f8012791f86f719a24a3ebac06d9b0a


    Analysts said the decision is a sign that China’s communist leaders are tightening scrutiny of the AI industry amid intensifying geopolitical rivalry with the U.S. over the technology.

    “China is showing the world that it is willing to play hardball when it comes to AI talents and capabilities, which the country views as a core national security asset,” said Lian Jye Su, chief analyst at the technology research and advisory group Omdia. “It is strongly indicative of what Chinese authorities may do going forward regarding acquisitions involving Chinese deep-tech companies.”

    Beijing’s acquisition ban could deter similar acquisition plans by U.S. tech giants going forward, he said. “In the context of rivalry, it mirrors U.S. export controls, entity lists, and investment curbs on China,” said Su.​
     
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    We have to maintain our lead vs China in software that automates tasks that most people enjoy like booking vacations or else they'll joylessly book more vacations than us at scale

    We'll be left behind forever!

    Here's an idea to compete with China we shouldn't have elected a moron who sold us out to the fossil fuel shiekhs & let China take over all of 21st century energy generation - but meanwhile look at this software that just did a gif of a shark with boobs while also summarizing a podcast
     
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    Uhh we didn't elect Harris you idiot
     
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    The blocked acquisition confirms that AI has joined semiconductors and telecommunications as a sector where geopolitical considerations will increasingly override commercial logic, forcing companies to navigate a fragmenting global technology landscape where access to innovation is constrained by national borders.

    the veto establishes a precedent [/B]

    Chinese AI companies stand to benefit from the decision. Domestic competitors to Manus, including ByteDance’s AI division and Alibaba Cloud’s agent platform, now face reduced competitive pressure and may find it easier to attract investment. The decision also signals to Chinese AI firms that Beijing will protect domestic champions from foreign acquisition, potentially encouraging more aggressive expansion strategies.

    The decision may accelerate the bifurcation of global AI markets into distinct technological ecosystems. Companies operating internationally will face mounting pressure to develop separate technology stacks for Chinese and Western markets, increasing development costs and reducing economies of scale.
     
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    The U.S. CHIPS Act (2022) is one of America’s most significant responses to the U.S.-China chip conflict. With more than $50 billion in funding, the act aims to rebuild chip manufacturing, strengthen supply chains, and enhance national security.

    Key goals:

    • Bring semiconductor fabs back to the U.S.
    • Reduce reliance on East Asian manufacturers.
    • Increase domestic R&D.
    • Support workforce training in microelectronics.
    This is America’s long-term plan to ensure it remains competitive in the 2026 global technology landscape.​
     
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    Who Will Lead in 2026

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    Predicting the winner of the global tech war of 2026 is challenging because both nations have unique strengths.

    United States Strengths




      • World-leading AI models
      • Most advanced AI chips
      • Superior semiconductor design
      • Strong research universities
      • Innovative private sector
      • Leading cloud computing platforms
    China’s Strengths



      • Largest scale in data generation
      • Rapid infrastructure deployment
      • Centralized long-term planning
      • Massive government investment
      • Growing domestic semiconductor capability
      • Expanding influence in developing countries through tech exports
     
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    ~~40 years ago,

    Germany and Japan were the only countries that have constructed high-speed rail systems, bullet trains;
    US and China announced plans to follow suit.

    China, leveraging this inherent advantage,
    proceeded to construct a large bullet trains system.
    currently, it has 19 pairs of bullet trains operating on a daily basts​
     
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    Let's presume this is correct, which country will generate cheaper, inexhaustible, low emissions energy for all of these chips, and which willl be left behind, reliant on burning 19th c fossil fuels being transported by pipe & boat.

    The blind spot here is -pretty big-
     
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    San Francisco vs. Shenzhen: The Ultimate AI City Showdown



    As of 2025, neither city can claim total victory. Both lead in different arenas:

    • San Francisco remains the capital of AI software, generative models, and cloud ecosystems.
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    • Shenzhen is the world’s hub for AI hardware, robotics, and smart infrastructure.
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    If the future is hybrid — combining intelligent hardware with human-like AI models — both cities may eventually co-rule the AI planet.



    SF is ~~ 40 mi nw of the silicon valley, Shenzhen is ~ 31 mi ne of Hong Kong, a 14-minute bullet train ride away.
     
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    It is not a blind spot. Everyone, well, anyone not blind, knows what drives tomorrow’s economy since 10+ years ago. This is self-sabotage to the nth degree, and MAGA does not have a clue that they are hurting their children’s future.
     
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    We are in a pivotal moment in History Now

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    The U.S.′ AI love affair with the UAE isn’t just about access —
    it’s about dominance

    • The U.S. currently makes the world’s most advanced semiconductor chips, while the UAE has the abundant cheap energy to power enormous AI data centers.
    • The two countries’ AI alliance has already seen hundreds of billions of dollars in investment between firms like Nvidia, Microsoft, OpenAI, and the UAE’s G42, Mubadala and MGX.
    • The partnership has huge implications for the global AI race, national security, geopolitical power, and competition with China.
    In the eyes of many investors, financial leaders, and political powers players from Silicon Valley and Washington to Abu Dhabi and Dubai, the two countries’ ever-strengthening AI alliance — to which hundreds of billions of dollars have already been committed — is a match made in heaven.

    “Energy‑rich Gulf nations join the roster of trusted partners just as U.S. data‑center grids hit their physical limits,”

    The goal for Washington is clear: to ensure American companies lead the global AI race with China and spread American tech around the world.

    Trump’s Middle East visit in mid-May 2025— which featured stops in Riyadh, Doha, and Abu Dhabi — saw the announcement of over $200 billion in commercial deals between the U.S. and the UAE. This brought the total of investment agreements in the Gulf region, including those from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to over $2 trillion.

    As part of the Abu Dhabi deals, OpenAI, Oracle, Nvidia and Cisco Systems announced that they will help build Stargate UAE AI campus launching in 2026. The Stargate Project is a $500 billion private sector AI-focused investment vehicle, announced by OpenAI in January in partnership with Abu Dhabi investment firm MGX and Japan’s SoftBank.

    The companies said an initial 200-megawatt AI cluster should launch in Abu Dhabi in 2026. And the AI campus deal means the UAE gets access to many of Nvidia’s latest chips, American technology and software.
     
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    It’s the kind of agreement that would have faced restrictions under the previous U.S. administration, but Trump 2.0 has looked to
    change the way is approaching tech export restrictions.

    Trump 2.0 plans to rescind a Biden era “AI diffusion rule,” which imposed strict export controls on advanced AI chips even to
    U.S.-friendly nations. that doing away with these limits could open the door for the sensitive American technology to end up
    in the hands of rivals like China — a topic of ongoing debate among U.S. lawmakers and security professionals.

    • The two countries’ AI alliance
      • The two countries’ AI alliance has already seen hundreds of billions of dollars in investment between firms like Nvidia, Microsoft, OpenAI, and the UAE’s G42, Mubadala and MGX.
    Part of the U.S.’s push in the UAE and the broader region comes down to a desire for American technology to establish supremacy globally and push back the advances of China.

    On the one hand, U.S. export curbs have restricted access for companies like Nvidia to sell advanced technology to China. It has also stopped China access some technology to advance its own development in areas like semiconductors and AI.

    At the same time, Washington is opening up new markets, like the Middle East, to its biggest tech companies.
     
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    China's chip ambitions shake up global tech industry

    Four years ago, the United States, via Biden's policies, tightened the screws on China's technological ambitions, rolling out export curbs on advanced chips, commonly known as semiconductors, used in artificial intelligence (AI), data centers and national defense.

    The restrictions pushed Beijing to accelerate its push for chip self‑reliance, a goal laid out years earlier in its Made in China 2025 plan. The Chinese government has since poured hundreds of billions of dollars into building up domestic semiconductor production.

    Beijing granted huge subsidies, tax breaks and other cost savings to nurture local counterparts to NVIDIA — the US company behind the cutting‑edge Blackwell AI chip — and Taiwan's TSMC, the world's dominant contract chipmaker for advanced semiconductors and developer of the N2 chip‑manufacturing technology.




     
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