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[Official] Paolo Banchero as a ORL Magic thread

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TimDuncanDonaut, Jun 26, 2022.

  1. Joe Joe

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    You can say no all you want, but Banchero does not cause a great stretch 5 to magically sprout out of the ground. As such, the Banchero and Amen fit does not address the problem of the Amen and Sengun fit.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    ...and the Rockets would still have to play a center. Most centers play defense, but can't shoot; or are stretch 5's that make Sengun look great defensively. Sengun pulls much more gravity than most centers that play defense even if he's a non-shooter relative to most players. For example, some teams will play their center on Amen so the center can roam freely while putting the PF to actually guard Sengun.
     
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    Banchero and Amen fit better together than Sengun and Amen do.

    Banchero can run the floor and Sengun does not - which minimizes the issue of shooting somewhat.

    Also, Banchero gets to the line more, and is a better perimeter shooter.

    I am not claiming that Banchero is a perfect fit, nor am I claiming that he solves all of the problems.

    What I am saying is that there are somethings about Banchero that arguably fit the Rockets roster better than Sengun.

    Both Sengun and Banchero have flaws that right now are limiting their impact on winning.

    It is up to an organization to decide what they think can be done with Banchero.

    If a team like the Rockets decides to roll the dice on Banchero, it will be based on his perceived upside and fit.
     
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    Yep. Any future upside as a franchise player is pretty much zero given his awful bball iq and attitude. Add in Banchero's horrendous contract and not sure how anyone with an ounce of sanity would consider a move for Banchero, no matter the cost.
     
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    I'd imagine if we replace Sengun with Banchero, Smith would play the stretch center role. But the defense of Banchero-Smith would be worse Sengun-Smith.
     
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    Never a doubt!
     
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    There still is a center on the court not running with Amen and Banchero. So basically, the problems of Amen and Sengun still exist, but adding to it with another non-shooter.
    JSJ at center adds other problems. Ime would run JSJ at center now if he could. DFS was the hope as a small ball center. Even then, it was backup minutes.
     
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    Also, open court is only about 20% of the game. Less in the playoffs. Putting 3 non-shooters on the court is a disaster. Trying to maximize open court without an offensive star that can play both open and half court is not wise.

    If the Rockets could get Paolo for a 1st round picks that was guaranteed not to be great, maybe try him.
     
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    Hoping the Magic crash and burn so we can get Banchero for Sengun and then I can spend the summer trying to talk myself into Paolo’s untapped franchise player potential.
     
  11. Easy

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    We did that already in the summer of 2022.
     
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    Fair, but now it’ll be more difficult because we have 4 years of data of him not living up to that.
     
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    The Rockets would play small ball with Banchero or Smith at times.

    Assuming the Rockets were to make that deal and commit to playing an offense from the 21st century, they would be looking at adding a center anyway.

    Ultimately the Rockets are going to need to make a definitive decision on style of play - most of the younger players the Rockets have are conducive to running a faster paced offense, but Sengun isn't.

    The issue with Sengun isn't limited to his lack of ability to shoot, he also has defensive limitations and pace of play issues.
     
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    He's so ****ing bad. He likely has the worst touch around the rim among 6'9"+ players. He can't reliably shoot from anywhere on the court. I don't know how he was advertised as the next Lebron he's slow as ****. Defenders usually beat him to the spot and force a contested shot a few feet from the basket and he bricks it. They'd be lucky if he becomes even 70% as good as Randle.
     
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    him and Mobley are competing for top 3 worst contract in the league
     
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    It's not Mobley, he's having a good game, it's another Harden playoff no show
     
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    I really don't like Paolo and I think he's fool's gold. He is so far below league average on some of the advanced scoring efficiency statistics, and he isn't a good defender either. He's also getting paid significantly more than Sengun. But at the same time it's starting to feel like this

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    Probably feels like that to Orlando fans right now too.
     
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    The Magic are locked in jail by their 4 big contracts. However, Jamahl Mosley was clearly not the coach to get the best out of their players and that leaves hope a new coach with a clue on offense can raise them to a new level.

    One thing for sure is Pablo's effort-level and focus vary a lot and that has to change no matter who the new coach is. At some point, he's got to overcome his big mood swings and bring the force every single night. He also must learn to shoot consistently.
     

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