[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

That wouldn't surprise me one bit. He's been manipulating the markets his entire term. I bet Hegseth is frothing at the mouth though to blow away as many Iranians as he can, and urging Trump to let him do it, telling him it will be easy to steal their oil once he blows the country up.

 

This 25th Amendment stuff needs to stop. It is not happening with this crew, who are all grifting, power-hungry, Trump sycophants. The only reason we are talking about the 25th Amendment is because we know the true Constitutional remedy is off the table as Republicans in Congress will never vote to impeach and remove. If Republicans in Congress won't do it, does anyone think a group hand-picked by Trump will? No. The pressure should be on Republicans in Congress, but they have done a masterful job of becoming invisible and inconsequential.

 

We Meddle . . .when we haven't the right

Rocket River

 

I agree but I do think Trump knows Hegseth regardless is going to say that Trump is a genius messiah regardless of what he really wants him to do.

The thing that I fear is that sometimes the military puts things in action that technically are just options put into place that when push comes to shove, its hard for a president to call off once they are set in motion. I think he is thinking he's going to TACO and just move on, but these things often take on a life of their own. I think that's what happened on the initial strikes when the Ayatollah and the other 39 leaders gathered to take seriously the Kushner deal. I don't think Trump ever thought he would actually go through with it because he wants deals more than anything because war is too complex for his peanut brain, but things just lined up, and he had too many people setting him to say yes too easily.

Same COULD happen here, but I don't believe that something like bombing all the energy plants, and bridges in Iran is something that our military brass would actually setup for him to execute that easily.

We'll see I guess.

 

The question every American needs to contemplate is:
What will people do when they cannot find justice through the systems that are in place?

This needs to be contemplated from the Macro to the Micro levels.

Someones daughters is rapes and the courts let these guys off continually . .. . what are people to do?
The government continues to take you money and give you nothing in return . . . .what are you to do?
The Government put you and your family at hazard with a useless war . . .. What are you to do?
There is no Avenue to Justice . . . what do . .. you . . .do?



Rocket River

 

I know you are right, and It's that mindset that makes me sick. I would never even consider voting for a single one of those guys when Trump is gone. They have shown over and over and over that they don't care as much about America as they do pleasing Trump. They are all complicit in the war mongering, abusees of power, failing economy, failing healthcare, failing foreign relations with our allies, and the war crimes, corruption, and secrecy and lies to protect the powerful in the Epstein files, along with Maxwell's special treatment.

Oh, sure, when Trump is gone they will change their tunes when they run for Presidency, but it won't matter one bit to me, because they could have stopped licking Trump's boots, discarded those brown shirts, and done the right thing when it mattered most.

 

He probably cheated his ass off playing Battleship as a kid. I can just see that.

 

It looks like the US has totally abandoned the Iranian people. They’ve created a new generation of millions who will hate America.

And to what end? Does this make Americans safer, if that was ever the goal?

 

his posting is becoming more and more insane by the day

MSM just sits there like it’s normal and he didn’t just threaten to destroy an entire civilization. And for what? Nukes they didn’t have and weren’t trying to make?

you can’t convince me this isn’t the anti-Christ who was born on a blood moon…and all the fake Christians in this country went and worshipped a false prophet…they will all follow him to the pits of hell

 

That's the biggest problem with Trump putting a bunch of billionaires, personal lawyers, and biggest donors in the administration. Our two-tiered justice system wasn't bad enough already, and he is ensuring it stays that way.

 

He's doing all he can to ensure the terrorists rise against America in the years to come, that's for sure. He's endangering Americans in so many ways with his ignorance, hate, greed, and power mongering that it's head spinning.

 

Definitely increasing the Hate towards America.
This is beyond Iran or the Muslem world. Do you think the people in the UK, France and Spain
are happy with us? Their displeasure will show up in different way but it will show up .

He is making it so much worse
The unfairness of it is becoming blatant . . .and they are flaunting it in the faces of the rest of us
They are basically walking into people's houses throwing **** around grabbing all their money then saying. . . .you can't do **** about it

Rocket River

 

Trump is just another Jim Jones, but with a bigger platform. The Cult Christianity he and his psycho sidekicks preach isn't something anyone with morals and faith should believe in or support. It's sick that people support it and call themselves Christians. It' a cult and they don't even know it. He will take their hard earned money any way he can.

 

This doesn't sound like something the winner of the FIFA Peace Prize would say.

 

Everyone who participated in the normalization of this man - whether or not they voted for him - is culpable for his horrific crimes.

 

Have the “Genocide Joe” folks weighed in on this? Any protests planned or are they still uncommitted?

 

Yeah, agree. I can't think of a more disgusting way to celebrate our 250th than to have that psycho who spits on the constitution and people of this country regularly put himself in the spotlight of the celebrations, his signature on our currency, all while peddling 250th anniversary souvenirs on his Trump website. He literally takes a dump on Americans every chance he gets, if it puts more money into his military regime, returns favors for policies he took bribes and donations for, and supports his vanity projects and self-enrichment agendas.

 

Um guys, this Iran situation kind of sucks...

QUICK PIVOT TO HILARY!

 

Prime example of hurting yourself because of grievances. Too common a behavior.