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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    breh you don't even know
     
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    @LosPollosHermanos seems like you're right and I'm wrong. I underestimated how crazy Trump is
     
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    this whole operation has been carefully planned with seeds sewn for years, and especially this last year with the staged protests etc.

    This is always going to end with the axis of epstein trying to turn Iran into a failed state with complete disregard for its people

    Also, I have no idea wtf the UAE is going to do. Its a p***y country and govt
     
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    on 6 March 2026,

    instead, Iran---using shared intelligence from Russia---proceeded to bomb US assets / block the strait of Hermuz;

    When the going gets tough, invariably, Trump TACOs


    Could this be a prelude to Trump giving up; punting / surrendering ?
     
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    He doesn't understand that NATO is a defensive Alliance. What a dumb president we have
     
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    I'll say one thing about the combo of this war and record March heat across the globe: It's pushing many countries towards a Green New Deal kind of thing really fast. This will only accelerate as we drag out the war and hit the heat of summer. So, yay?

    FYI: You probably know about the record March heat and record low snowpack in the US, but thousands and thousands of records have been set around the world with most of the Northern Hemisphere affected. Well over 10,000 records were set in March, making it the most intense and long-lasting modern-era heat wave. Finland, for instance, had the first ever March where the national mean temp was above freezing. Saudi Arabia had the hottest March on record. Across Asia, hundreds of places set new records by 10.0c or more.
     
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    In the UAE we’ve experienced the best weather of the past 50 years. It’s rained for 6 of the last 8 days in this desert climate. Weather is unfathomably amazing for this time of year. That’s the only positive thing going on right now.
     
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    Weird humor to my more cynical Western eyes but it got a chuckle. Would have been really funny if Trump and Bibi smooched at the end.
     
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    Sources tell me that tonights address to the nation will be Trump blathering for 10 minutes while saying absolutely nothing of consequence.

    Here are the sharpie notes I have gotten that contains the outlined notes for Trump to read off of:

    -We are doing very well
    -Better than most anyone would have believed
    -Democrats are horrible and evil
    -We are going to do big things with Iran
    -The war is winding down
    -We want to make a deal
    -We already have a deal
    -If we can’t get a deal then Iran loses and we win bigger than ever
    -Democrats and the media are terrible and evil
    -I have built the most beautiful ballroom
    -Sleepy Joe Biden
    -We have a deal
    -We are looking to make a deal
    -Democrats left us with a mess like the world has never seen
    -We fixed it better than the world has ever seen
    -Woke media and evil Democrats
    -Have to fix horrible voter ID
    -Thank you and go fck yourself America
     
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    I think
    • that Trump will list all of the Trump Iran War accomplishments, i.e. all the **** we blew up.
    • that Trump will conflate accomplishments with the Trump Iran War objectives
    • that Trump will call NATO a bunch p*****s since they won't lend a hand in Trump's Iran War
    • that Trump will threaten to leave NATO ... in two weeks
    • that Trump will claim that the new Iranian regime approached him, big and strong, with tears in their eyes
    • that Trump will claim that a deal with Iran is so, so very close, but if not we will continue blow their **** up
    • that Trump will claim that he has no plans to put boots on the ground, especially not after all the troop deployments have completed in mid April ... definitely ... not ... mid ... April
    • that Trump is the best President ever
    • that the Democrats suck
    • that Trump finally will spend 10 minutes going on and on about the new Trump White House ballroom
     
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    Vladmir Putin:

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    Yeah, not only does Trump have no plan, he hates making decisions when there is no easy answer. He will spew banalities, cite numbers of bombs, and vomit a slurry of feints hoping one of them will stick and offer him a way out. At some point, he will be forced to make a decision, even if it is a passive one. I would bet that ends up being an escalation because his ego can't handle the immediate defeat that every other option creates.

    By the way, after they get over the horror of the situation, the world is laughing at us and Trump in particular.
     
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    Now the entire Trump admin is begging for a ceasefire in exchange for the strait being open something that was already open before the war. It's not for an end to Iran's nuclear program, not for their enriched uranium but something that was already open and free before the war
     
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    Iran would be stupid to agree to a ceasefire when the word of this regime and Israel means less than nothing

    ceasefire = give us time to get all our troops and ships to the region to attack while your guard is lowered
     
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    But how pathetic is it that our public demand for a ceasefire is something that was already being done before the war? ND his dumbass cultist will somehow think it's a win when it was already open ND free before the war.
     
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    I wouldn't put it past Trump to give Iran nuclear weapons to open the strait. That's more in line with his deal making skills.
     
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    Professor Robert Pape makes the case that Iran will become the 4th global power after the US, China and Russia.

     
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    TLDR Gemini summary:

    In this Breaking Points segment from April 1, 2026, Professor Robert Pape joins to discuss the geopolitical shifts resulting from the ongoing conflict with Iran. He argues that the world has fundamentally changed in the last month, regardless of any potential declarations of "victory" or peace from the Trump administration.

    1. Iran as a New "World Power"
    Pape asserts that Iran has emerged as a new global center of power, primarily due to its control over significant portions of the world's energy supply.

    • Energy Chokehold: Iran now controls a massive share of world oil—roughly double what Russia possessed before the war [03:52]. Pape notes that this gives them an extra $75–$100 billion annually to fund their military and nuclear programs [04:02].

    • Shift in Global Dynamics: 33 days ago, there were three centers of world power (US, Russia, China). Now, Pape argues there are four, with Iran quickly rising while the US is "fading" [07:34].
    2. The "NATO is Dead" Argument
    One of the most provocative points Pape makes is that NATO has effectively ceased to exist as a functional military alliance [09:22].

    • Command Structure Collapse: While the formal structure remains, Pape suggests European nations are no longer willing to follow orders from American generals [09:39].

    • Trump’s Influence: He attributes this to the repeated election of Donald Trump, which has led European allies to lose faith in consistent American leadership.

    • Withdrawal Considerations: The video highlights reports that Trump is "disgusted" with NATO and considering the full withdrawal of US forces [08:10].
    3. The Failure of "America First" Realism
    Pape criticizes the "America First" rhetoric as "cheap sales talk" that ignores strategic realities [07:21].

    • Economic Shock: Despite market optimism that the war might end, Pape warns that the economic consequences (like oil prices and manufacturing costs) are already set in motion [20:36].

    • The "Escalation Trap": He argues that pulling back US forces doesn't necessarily lead to de-escalation; instead, it leaves a power vacuum that Iran, Russia, and China are eager to fill [14:43].
    4. Fracturing Alliances in the Middle East
    The Professor describes a regional realignment where traditional US allies are "hedging" their bets [11:45]:

    • Bandwagoning: Iraq is moving closer to Iran's orbit.

    • Neutrality: Qatar and Oman are staying neutral to avoid conflict.

    • Alarmed States: Saudi Arabia and the UAE are in a "real problem" as they see US support potentially evaporating [23:48].
    5. Market Flaws & Strategic Miscalculations
    Pape warns businesses like JP Morgan and Amazon (which have been specifically threatened by the IRGC) that their assumptions about "returning to normal" are fatally flawed [17:27].

    • A New Reality: The assumption that once the bombing stops, the world reverts to how it was 33 days ago is incorrect because Iran has already gained immense leverage over global oil and energy [21:21].

    • Chinese Partnership: He emphasizes that Iran doesn't need Western investment as much as before, as it can leverage AI and technology partnerships with China [19:46].
     
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