This notion that those opposing ICE/BP/DOJ brutality in their community are some sort of super-organization that could only be made possible by infiltration of people with knowledge of certain terrorism and counter-terrorism secret knowledge are just nuts. We've been through this before and there is even a good book on it, but many still believe there is no way a group of Black American pastors and activists could create such a movement without direction from foreign commie experts. I mean, how could they have the intelligence, discipline, organization, and message to change the country? Same with those latte-sipping soy boys and housewives in Minnesota. It's like MAGA folks don't know their own history or their own people or their own country. Wait, it's not like that, it is that.
Kudos to giving us some of your own words instead of just posting slop, I guess. That said, if this is your best, maybe stick to slop as this is just unhinged. Why are you guys always creating fictions about THE LEFT! and camps when you support an administration that is literally building concentration camps now? It's also nice you think that only one side has agency and MAGA is just completely powerless to affect any outcome. Here's a hint: at some point, MAGA will be out of power and there will be a reaction, but it will involve prosecuting criminals, new laws and Constitutional amendments to reduce the risk of MAGA damage in the future, and probably a resurgence of academia and culture that will make you feel uncomfortable. If you want to lessen that reaction, it is within the power of this administration and MAGA to do just that. You could start by treating people with humanity. Here's another hint: If politics is a game, it never ends and the other team always, without fail, gets another at bat. That's why the swings between left and right in our modern history have tended to be mild. You don't want a lot of wobble because it endangers all. But MAGA has changed that. Post-MAGA government will need to figure out how to keep the plate spinning and yes, that will involve some policies and actions that you won't like. If you want to start a civil war over that, if you dream and fantasize about civil war because you think you'll come out on top in the end, you're hardly worthy of being called an American. And what is this "people with guns?" Is there a law that only MAGA has guns (as of now)? Yet another hint: non-MAGA folks also own guns and it doesn't matter how many guns one person has, they can only effectively fire one at a time. MAGA has a Tremors-like basement full of guns and brags about it on internet forums while the guy with the Bernie sticker on his car down the street only owns one gun and never mentions it. You think only MAGA has served in the military? You think cops and ICE and BP are going to run roughshod over everyone in a real fighting war? It'll be Uvalde on steroids. They are a bunch of insecure cowards hiding behind guns who will soil their pants when bullets are directed at them. Here's yet another hint: guns are nice, but if you're betting on a war, pick the side armed with brains--and MAGA ain't it. Do you really believe a guy like Hegseth could out-think anyone above Sargent when it comes to military strategy? No, it would not go as you hope. It would just be carnage all around. Any talk of a civil war is absurd as it would completely destroy this country and commit millions to death and misery. Anyone dreaming of it is deranged.
Swings were mild? Ha ha umm what? Left attempts to kill Trump Left tries to create Russia Hoax on Trump Left tries to prosecute Trump pre 24’ to send him to jail. one would say that the left has been FARRRR more damaging towards an actual presidential candidate. They have done everything possible the last 3 election cycles to remove the Republican candidate from running. The FBI got probable cause to investigate election fraud in 2020… lmao. The left has tried to Kill, Prosecute and potentially cheat its way to victory the last 3 election cycles. Who created the Woke atmosphere? Left has drawn the US back tenfold. that’s the truth.
Trump did commit crimes. He was convicted. If people don't like it when Trump gets convicted of felonies he committed, then don't support him and his crimes of which he is guilty.
there's a startling amount of projection and lack of self-awareness in the above. also, I don't pretend to speak for "MAGA" or the right, so I'm surprised you're able to with such conviction.
Alberto Castañeda Mondragón says his memory was so jumbled after a beating by immigration officers that he initially could not remember he had a daughter and still struggles to recall treasured moments like the night he taught her to dance. But the violence he endured last month in Minnesota while being detained is seared into his battered brain. He remembers Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents pulling him from a friend's car on Jan. 8 outside a St. Paul shopping center and throwing him to the ground, handcuffing him, then punching him and striking his head with a steel baton. He remembers being dragged into an SUV and taken to a detention facility, where he said he was beaten again. He also remembers the emergency room and the intense pain from eight skull fractures and five life-threatening brain hemorrhages. "They started beating me right away when they arrested me," the Mexican immigrant recounted this week to The Associated Press, which recently reported on how his case contributed to mounting friction between federal immigration agents and a Minneapolis hospital. Castañeda Mondragón, 31, is one of an unknown number of immigration detainees who, despite avoiding deportation during the Trump administration's enforcement crackdown, have been left with lasting injuries following violent encounters with ICE officers. His case is one of the excessive-force claims the federal government has thus far declined to investigate. He was hurt so badly he was disoriented for days at Hennepin County Medical Center, where ICE officers constantly watched over him. Officers claimed he ran headfirst into a wall The officers told nurses Castañeda Mondragón "purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall," an account his caregivers immediately doubted. A CT scan showed fractures to the front, back and both sides of his skull - injuries a doctor told AP were inconsistent with a fall. "There was never a wall," Castañeda Mondragón said in Spanish, recalling ICE officers striking him with the same metal rod used to break the windows of the vehicle he was in. He later identified it as an ASP, a telescoping baton routinely carried by law enforcement. Training materials and police use-of-force policies across the U.S. say such a baton can be used to hit the arms, legs and body. But striking the head, neck or spine is considered potentially deadly force. "The only time a person can be struck in the head with any baton is when the person presents the same threat that would permit the use of a firearm - a lethal threat to the officer or others," said Joe Key, a former Baltimore police lieutenant and use-of-force expert who testifies in defense of police. Once he was taken to an ICE holding facility at Ft. Snelling in suburban Minneapolis, Castañeda Mondragón said officers resumed beating him. Recognizing that he was seriously hurt, he said, he pleaded with them to stop but they just "laughed at me and hit me again." "They were very racist people," he said. "No one insulted them, neither me nor the other person they detained me with. It was their character, their racism toward us, for being immigrants." The Department of Homeland Security, which includes ICE, did not respond to repeated requests for comment over the last two weeks on Castañeda Mondragón's injuries. It is unclear whether his arrest was captured on body-camera footage or if there might be additional recordings from security cameras at the detention center.
@rocketsjudoka -- could we have an update? Most of us wish you well. I'm curious if the (slightly?) decreased ICE presence is noticeable. I wish those of us who care could do more for Minneapolis. Take care.
The scales will balance. It could be tomorrow when one of these savages ****s with the wrong person or it could be in 40 years when they’re alone, gasping for breath on their deathbed, realizing that their entire life was a farce and they just wish they could have one more minute with their estranged child.
This is unacceptable! They need to be held accountable, and that goes all the way up the chain of command.
I agree, but want to step through it. 1. People appeal to the courts, and in most cases, the courts (in their slow methodical way) are siding with lawfulness and holding people to account. 2. The current regime and DHS/ICE in particular often ignore or disobey court orders. So one branch of our federal government is choosing to ignore one of the other three branches. 3. Our current system has no way to deal with #2 unless the third branch of government (which has no military and never mind paramilitary like ICE) acts to punish and correct the branch that is acting counter the our system of government. They can do that via withdrawing funding, carrying out impeachments, etc. You know, the serious stuff, instead of tweeting and issuing edicts and giving podcast interviews. 4. Is Congress a few need-a-spine GOP members away (just a few really) from consideration #3? Or is it many members away? I worry that it also needs some new democrats, b/c so many legacy dems have no stomach for #3 and think one election, if it even legitimately happens, will fix everything. TL;DR: Nobody will hold them to account for now, and they know it. They relish it. Minus seriously revamped congressional behavior, we are all ****ed, (unless we are billionaires or white I(n)CE(ls) who like to act like soldiers on our streets).
Your truth , and my truth , are different from objective truth . I guess we could have a philosophical discussion about that . This boogeyman you call the left doesn't exist . It's the current admin and right wing crony capitalists that are extracting wealth from our country , dividing and riling up the populace , and worsening relationships with former allies .
I would agree with you to an extent as I realize both sides in congress have "me me me" intentions which is why you see 80% American agreement on issues not get passed which is telling. I think the rhetoric that one side of the country is facist, nazi's gestapo which is repeated in here by several posters is the most damaging rhetoric you could ever find. It creates radicalization. The intent to murder Trump, actually murder Charlie kirk or stop federal law enforcement is inherently done from a "good moral place" in these individuals brains. There intent is good to them. It sure as hell isn't a good thing but in their mind it is. I would say the current democrat party is much more dangerous to America. More radicals on that side. Isn't relatively close either.
I could get behind this, but this isn't all they are doing. They have quotas and good people despite being illegal are being removed which is over the top. Has to a better way. What ICE is doing is probably 90-95% good and what 80% of Americans want. Houston last week had several builder communities raided by ICE, taking workers off the frame and foundations of homes that Americans live in and I can't get behind it. Its nasty work.
If Ms. Good's wife were to buy and AR15 and go Rambo on some ICE Officers I would be surprised or but not bothered One day they gonna kill the Wrong person and Retalitiona will come. . . just like the hope for Rocket River
Not sure Americans know what they want. Polls get large shares of Americans that want mass deportation and when we get the tiniest look at what that looks like in just one American city, everyone recoils and say they've gone too far. Do people stop and think for one second what "mass deportation" would look like? It's impossible to do in the short term without all the abuses we're seeing in Minneapolis.
