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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. RHU525

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    Was kinda thinking that too. Rockets should trade for Myles Turner if the bucks are having fire sale. I feel like he’d be a perfect fit next to sengun.
     
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    Sengun would have to be in the trade for Turner. I outlined a trade earlier that would round out our roster and make us contenders this year:
    fanspo-nba-trade-machine-snap_h_1-30-2026_11-11-17AM.jpeg
     
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  3. J.R.

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    Kobe catching a stray from the grave!

    He’s one of least efficient big men in the league.

    TS%
    71.6 Jokic
    69.5 M.Williams
    67.6 Ayton
    67.5 Gobert
    66.9 Gafford
    66.6 Duren
    66.4 Diabate
    65.5 Hartenstein
    64.9 Queta
    64.2 J.Allen
    63.0 Zubac
    62.0 W.Carter
    61.7 Gumby
    60.0 Claxton
    60.0 Landale
    59.9 Embiid
    59.8 Clingan
    59.7 Huff
    59.4 Towns
    59.0 Okongwu
    59.0 CMB
    58.8 Turner
    58.7 Vucevic
    58.4 Raynaud
    56.1 Q.Post
    56.0 Sarr
    55.5 Nurkic
    55.4 Sengun
    54.8 Queen
    54.7 Bam

    Insert your dumbass comment here “Great! So you think Ayton is a top 5 center! Send it in Stone!” lol no

    No range. Poor FT shooter. Poor defender.

    Today’s center is basically one of these:
    “Modern center” - stretch big
    “Defensive anchor” - rim protector
    “Rim runner” - lob threat

    Is our guy a modern center? Does he stretch the floor? No.
    Is our guy a defensive anchor? LOL God no.
    Is our guy a rim runner or lob threat? No.

    Inefficient big man who makes some fancy passes.

    Spot the two outlier seasons! Stick out like a sore thumb.

    [​IMG]

    But he has no range. He has no shot to speak of.

    Can’t trot out a defensive center (that most likely can’t shoot), a PF that can’t shoot and a guard (or whatever you want to call Amen) that can’t shoot.

    1960s called. They want their offense back. :D
     
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    The Shooting or the lack thereof is worrisome, that is keeping him from true greatness.

    Same goes for Amen.

     
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    lol had to throw that late prime in there huh
     
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    Hell yes. We don’t win that game last night without his hobbled ass.
     
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    You sh*t on him all the time bro…never been a problem.
     
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    I'm not opposed to trading Sengun... but Sengun and Reed, for Turner, to help the Warriors land Giannis?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes because you stand on your knees when shooting free throws.
     
  10. Reeko

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    you did not just bring up Kobe Bryant in a Sengun thread…

    Sengun super fans have lost it
     
  11. sheb

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    After seeing Cooper Flag play I think it’s safe to play that we don’t have a franchise player. We either trade for a star or be mediocre with a first round exit the next few years and try rebuilding again
     
  12. the11mingdynasty

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    Perfectly fine to be critical of his play. But to b**** and moan because of ulterior motives ie Jalan fans, Sof, his whiteness ect. is f**king bullsh*t.
     
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    Do I? I simply state what I see while Sengun fanbois pull 24 hour shifts conjuring up the lamest of excuses for his garbage play

    we’ll be in April, and Sengun fanatics will probably still be talking about his ankle…anything to excuse away his performances

    How are you labeled the “franchise player” yet get none of the responsibility that comes with that? Instead it’s everyone else’s fault but his
     
  14. Reeko

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    way too many facts

    watch, Sengunatics will avoid this post like the plague
     
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    that's inconvenient
     
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    Now look at that list, and tell us which players get similar defensive attention and similar offensive volume. Also remind us the guards of their team. Sengun has not played a minute with a pg who can get to the rim.

    His ts% must improve for him to be a cornerstone of a championship team. But he is already very good at this point. The difference is between very good and great not shitty and average.

    so who would you take over Sengun from your high ts% players?

    by the way the best player and the center in the nba doesn’t fit any of the 3 types you de
     
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    Sorry, I must have confused you with someone else who called him fat, washed, and lazy. My bad.
     
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    Alperen Sengun PPP/PPS since 23-24

    Isolation
    25-26: 0.924 PPP | 51% PPP Rank | 90% Usage Rank
    (52.5% TS% / 12.1% TO%)

    24-25: 0.860 PPP | 43% PPP Rank | 86% Usage Rank
    (49.2% TS% / 12.8% TO%)

    23-24: 0.823 PPP | 33% PPP Rank | 80% Usage Rank
    (47.4% TS% / 12.8% TO%)

    Isolation w Passes
    25-26: 0.974 PPP | 61% PPP Rank | 93% Usage Rank
    (53.4% TS% / 8.9% TO%)

    24-25: 0.923 | 51% PPP Rank | 92% Usage Rank
    (51.7% TS% / 10.6% TO%)

    23-24: 0.793 | 23% PPP Rank | 90% Usage Rank
    (57.7% TS% / 10.3% TO%)

    Post-Up
    25-26: 0.954 PPP | 38% PPP Rank | 95% Usage Rank
    (54.7% TS% / 12.3% TO%)

    24-25: 1.026 PPP | 64% PPP Rank | 95% Usage Rank
    (58.5% TS% / 12.0% TO%)

    23-24: 0.965 PPP | 47% PPP Rank | 93% Usage Rank
    (57.7% TS% / 16.3% TO%)

    Post-Up w Passes
    25-26: 1.024 | 46% PPP Rank | 94% Usage Rank
    (55.8% TS% / 8.1% TO%)

    24-25: 0.996 PPP | 40% PPP Rank | 95% Usage Rank
    (55.2% TS% / 9.6% TO%)

    23-24: 1.048 PPP | 58% PPP Rank | 96% Usage Rank
    (58.8% TS% / 10.9% TO%)

    PnR Roll-Man
    25-26: 0.952 | 25% PPP Rank | 56% Usage Rank
    (54.2% TS% / 13.1% TO%)

    24-25: 0.941 PPP | 29% PPP Rank | 75% Usage Rank
    (50.9% TS% / 7.3% TO%)

    23-24: 1.135 PPP | 54% PPP Rank | 95% Usage Rank
    (60.9% TS% / 7.0% TO%)

    Drive Overall
    25-26: 0.867 PPP (49.8% TS% / 12.7% TO%)
    24-25: 0.823 PPP (47.6% TS% / 13.4% TO%)
    23-24: 0.925 PPP (53.5% TS% / 13.1% TO%)

    Jump Shots
    25-26: 0.81 PPS (34.9% 2P / 29.6% 3P)
    24-25: 0.76 PPS (38.9% 2P / 24.5% 3P)
    23-24: 0.87 PPS (42.3% 2P / 29.7% 3P)

    Hook
    25-26: 0.90 PPP (45.1%)
    24-25: 0.95 PPS (47.5% FG%)
    23-24: 1.01 PPP (50.3%)

    Half-Court Rim FG
    25-26: 1.28 PPP (63.8%)
    24-25: 1.18 PPS (58.8%)
    23-24: 1.27 PPP (63.4%)

    Runners
    25-26: 0.59 PPP (29.4%)
    24-25: 0.97 PPP (48.4%)
    23-24: 1.01 PPP (50.6%)
     
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  19. RHU525

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    What? lol why would we trade Reed and sengun for a worse players. What are you even saying and help the warriors get Giannis. We could trade for turner just with Adam’s and DFS salary. Or Fred.
     
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    3 very accurate descriptors
     
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