many local authorities are releasing prisoners . if you didn't want to be yelled and whistled at then you shouldn't have resorted to brutal tactics. your idea that ICE has faced outrageous defiance from the beginning is false. When you start asking people for papers and then detaining them for many hours even when they are citizens you are bound to get backlash. In no way did i suggest that no one would commit crimes or that every single person would show up , but if you didn't show up then you really are a criminal and there is cause to deport you . isnt doxxing a crime ? it is in california and illinois . doxxers run the risk of repercussions. Look , i didnt say solving the problem would be easy. But the way they are trying to isn't working either and its creating even more problems. Running up the deficit for paying for illegal childrens school lunches isnt ideal , but its the least of my worries. I'll be honest , i didnt vote for trump or kamala . And i dont trust trump to do the right thing. That bias aside , i trust my eyes. He's done things i agree with. ( though fewer things this time around ) This has played out in the worst way possible both in terms of actually deporting people and in terms of burning trust in the government. Maybe i dont have the perfect solution for your liking , but i know that they are making a mistake doing it the way they are . Doing things right takes time , the means do not justify the ends
We just came from your solution of "doing things right" during the Biden years. Warm and fuzzy. It's going to get you an A+ on your save the world paper at Columbia. But no dice in the real world. The Affirmative Asylum Process | USCIS This is not a pretty period in American history because of the bed of lies that previous policies resulted in. For the best interest of Americans as well as those who wish to work here, you just have to rip the band aid off instead of prolonging the pain. Once extractions get to a reasonable point, we'll see both parties come together on establishing a vetting process and work visa's for industries in need. It's certainly a better use of paperwork that the absurdity of 10 million court dates with a 2 million backlog.
Immigration will be the last thing to be solved The tensions are too high right now to get anything done You say rip the bandaid off , I say rip the law apart. With the amount of resources put into ice we could have rapidly sped up the court process Instead political division is furthered and both sides are dug in Nothing will get done and ice combined.wirh self deportations will solve 5% of the problem at a massive cost Analogy The body is the US , let's say immigration is cancer , right now the chemo is killing us faster than the cancer. We need an alternative treatment. Maybe I'm wrong . You're wrong too . In your estimation how much harm did BLM protests cause ? This is going to be worse . If they don't change up their ice strategy and go significantly softer the population will harden. You wanna call it pretend fascism , but it looks pretty real . It's real enough in enough people's minds and every time trump doubles down it just gives protesters more ammo. If they don't charge these officers and make some changes at the leadership level , Republicans will lose elections if there are elections and Ice will be neutered . Game over . If trump declares insurrection act /martial law and cancels elections Id hope you say that worse than the slow way of dealing with immigrants
Stros4bros better be collecting a nice paycheck from the Trump campaign for the shameless work he’s doing here to debase himself on behalf of the orange god king. I’m not sure if such devotion to a cause she be applauded or if we should be terrified by the loyalty to a corrupt violent criminal takeover of the republic.
No, that’s not the argument. The protests were sending a message to university and US leadership regarding enablement of Israel’s military siege of Gaza. It’s not about sending a message to the Israeli government directly. If the US is an ally to the Iranian government, I’d accept your double standard allegation for lack of protests.
Totalitarian governments take time to come to be. If you look at all the times when a Democratic country devolved into an authoritarian government, it's almost always a slow dissolution rather than instant transformation. And they always use the divide and conquer strategy. To keep people separated so they fight with each other while those at the top slowly destroys each section of the population. The fact that the US is not currently an authoritarian regime doesn't mean it will never be one in the future. And yes, people care about their own country more than others. Congrats you now know how the concept of countries work. Putting this Martin Niemöller quote here to give context. First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
It was authoritarian of the Biden Regime to import 20 million illegals in defiance of our democratically chosen laws. Trump is restoring the will of the people. Leftists are authoritarian by nature. They always diminish the lives of those around them.
Trump isn't doing anything to actual illegals. If he actually were going after illegals, half the hotels and restaurants would've been raided and you going out to eat would cost twice as much. If he actually did that, although I would personally disagree, I would at least say he's doing what he promised to do. But Trump needs illegals as much as any politician because without them, his 'they took our jobs' constituents would realize they don't actually want to wash dishes and clean bedsheets cause those are some very crappy jobs.
Crickets from the "left"? I am not sure what you really expected? If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of issues going on in the USA right now on the political and economic front. Further, the "left" does not have the executive branch, the legislative branch - nor the judicial branch. The left has no control in the government at this point. If you are pissed that the USA isn't getting involved in another Middle Eastern war, take it up with the MAGA controlled executive branch or the Republican controlled legislative branch. Also - right now it doesn't appear that the "left" is losing the argument on ICE tactics or the use of ICE by the President, as he is way under water on those issues. That can obviously change before the new election but right now they aren't losing the argument. It turns out that a majority of Americans don't like having masked, poorly trained thugs roaming the streets.
This guy is a good example of the Germans who supported Hitler as he became more and more a violent fascist. the support for scapegoating immigrants is very similar to his type in Germany.
1. "Why are you overreacting to a government that is displaying authoritarian tendencies, evidenced by history and don't want it to get worse like some places in the world?" 2. "You're a hypocrite for not doing something about Iran's theocrat authoriatirans Assistant Manager from Target, Susie from Minneapolis." 3. "I got you good basketball message board!"
The majority of Americans dislike violent illegals raping and strangling little 12 year-old American girls even less, unlike you.
You're a moron. We don't accept that we have to tolerate subsidizing MILLIONS of foreigners that want to live here, their BILLIONS in welfare FRAUD, and the INNUMERABLE numbers of Americans that they murder and kill. As I said, you're a DUMBF***!
Keep in mind, calling ICE Nazi's, Hiter, fascist Gestapo, along with Trump, were used well before the incidents in Minnesota. They have been used non stop to galvanize the protestors into constant provocation. They aren't protesting ****, they are intentionally trying to get a reaction with 100 camera's on at all times. We went 365 days without loss of life including massive demonstrations and violent attacks in the open on ICE in Los Angeles. You want ICE to turn it down? Have local law enforcement comply. Have local prisons comply. Sanctuary cities not only do not comply, they inform of how to evade and move addresses. So ICE is forced to profile and ask for ID. All those terms used on ICE or Trump never have been accurate. Masks are worn because when they weren't, they were used to dox and put a hit on agents as well as disrupting their personal life. Those terms create a climate where a mom of 3 uses her car to spend the entire day obstructing proceedings then meets with tragedy due to her own poor decision making. Not a single person protested Biden letting in 500k illegals a month but guess what --- policies have consequences. And those policies led to ICE being ramped up and aggressive methods being used to up extraction numbers. I want nothing to do with the middle east- let them handle their biz. But you have a clear cut example, in 2026, of how an actual fascist regime operates vs how a very democratic one operates. 36,000 dead in a few days vs 2 over a year. If you were sincere about American lives, you'd tone down the rhetoric and pretending more than 0.01% of those picked up are US citizens, who are then returned when able to be verified... because it took 365 days and a second death for Trump to lose favor on the WAY ICE is going about with deportations. Americans, even Kamala voters, are still in favor of deporting those who commit crime. Look at how freely mobs destroy property and hotels in Minnesota without any repercussions. If you keep up the false fascist narrative, more naive protestors are going to get themselves killed.
The violent crimes committed by an immigrant against an American citizen are terrible and I am thankful that legal system will bring justice to those criminals. The violent crimes committed by members of the federal government against an American citizen are terrible and I am saddened that no justice will be found in those cases.
I am very concerned that we have opened a door that will not be closed going forward - regardless of ruling party. We saw what happened to Executive power post 9-11… now the idea of future Presidents using ICE, border patrol or any other police force as henchmen to harass and harm people (especially political enemies) scares me greatly. The ripples for his will be felt for decades. I got to see how ICE and the Border Patrol operated upfront, I saw it for weeks every day around my home and on my commute to and from work. They viewed the people of Illinois as the enemy and I saw them target children and detain them. Not agreeing with someone politically is one thing - treating Americans based on geography as the enemy is another. I was literally told by the Chief Judge that there was no way or plan to limit or stop any illegal actions taken by ICE or Federal actors. The Governor of Illinois was just proud he could prevent them access to using state property to use the restroom.
