In Iran, 12,000 protestors were killed in 2 days by an authoritarian Islamic regime that has never held open elections. Crickets from the left. In America, 2 protestors have lost their lives over the course of 365 days after daily abuse, intimidation attempts, doxxing and threatening the lives of immigration officers. Both had weapons to kill (vehicle, loaded gun), and the 2nd incident will likely result in some kind of disciplinary action for the officer. Even though every common sense adult knows it's the collateral damage that comes with putting yourself in that situation. The left pretends they are the Nazi Gestapo, some kind of tooth fairy version. Talk about a losing argument.
These protesters died within the same week in the same city. Their deaths were unjustified to anyone with an ounce of decency and common sense. A woman was shot point blank in the face multiple times because her car made contact with an officer as she was driving away (no indication she was trying to injure him). Second case, a protester with a legal right to carry was apparently killed after being disarmed. The slaughter of Iranian protesters is indeed awful. Iran’s government is as bad as it gets. It is sad that the Trump administration encouraged Iranian protesters and promised America would have their backs and overthrow the government if protesters are harmed and then … nothing. In any case, it has no bearing on American protesters being shot dead for exercising their rights.
Real ass kicking vs imaginary ass kicking - Both prime Mike Tyson and Jake Paul would kick your ass . In one case you'd be getting your ass kicked worse , but in both case you are getting your ass kicked Real wealth vs imaginary wealth. Both Elon musk and jose altuve make more money than you. Elon is richer than jose , but they are both richer than you . I think what you lack is real logic , what you have is imaginary logic
OP is just jealous of the bodycount. Liberals are just being America First in the fact that they’ll probably be more vocal about you know their own government and fellow citizens wanting them murdered in the streets. OP trying to distract from ICE murders just shows what kind of person we are dealing with here. This is a being that is much closer to a wild animal than a human being. And if it needs to be said yes Iran’s government murdering protestors is like really freaking bad. So why isn’t Trump doing anything about it?? He took out Maduro who was corrupt, an unelected dictator, and a poor leader, but he didn’t murder 12,000 of his own citizens. Apparently you guys are back to Team America World Police again so why aren’t you upset that Trump hasn’t bombed Tehran to smithereens??
Hmmm… and I wonder why they are using words like Nazi and the Gestapo. Also… is Joe Rogan a leftist??? He called what ICE is doing Gestapo. Maybe just maybe that’s because it is…. MAGA loves to do this thing where their cleric and his regime does something bad but what the problem is REALLY is people acknowledging it for what it is… the anger with you nut jobs is acknowledging reality and not also choosing to live in your own fcked up fantastical reality that has been created for you after years of propaganda and grooming.
How about the sane view that nobody should die? What do you think about that? Or is “party of life” a lie?
Which one is the government sending in Federal Agents who they claim don't have to follow the fourth amendment, shoot a citizen multiple times in the back, don't start an investigation and begin lying about the victim, while sending demands to people of that state of the personal identity and information for voting records? Is that real or fake fascism?
3 shots were fired at a woman as she accelerated her vehicle towards an ICE officer after spending the entire day using her vehicle to impede progress, then refusing to obey orders when told to get out of her car. She tried to speed off but ended up hitting the officer. Although likely unintentional --- He was absolutely within his rights to defend himself after provocation. 100% the fault of woman. Second case, the protestor brought a semi automatic weapon and no ID to a protest. He was maced while interfering with a woman who was antagonizing law enforcement. On the floor, he was supposedly disarmed but was still wildly reaching for the officers belt. Whether there was a weapon on his holster or not - we don't know. But seeing as he was shot while being restrained by multiple officers, it's hard to believe the officers life was in direct danger. I would relieve the officer of duty --- 60% ICE officer fault, 40% victim's fault. Unfortunately, that's what happens when you galvanize your base with false claims ICE are fascist nazi's -- collateral damage. Democrats view them as pawns whose lives are disposable. These deaths aren't happening in states where police cooperate with federal law enforcement. It's exclusively in Minnesota where we also had the George Floyd riots. The common link is the leadership here pushing this false narrative and creating these scenario's. Even then, 2 deaths over 365 days shows incredible restraint on ICE's behalf. The actual fascists, where these people would disappear within seconds, have now killed upwards of 35,000. Not a single protest from the left or democrats. So which is it? What exactly do you have to stand on?
The sane wouldn't use a vehicle to impede ICE officers all day, then drive a vehicle at an officer after refusing to exit the vehicle. The sane wouldn't bring a semi automatic weapon to a protest and put themselves in confrontational scenarios. You can't account for every small detail in real time. I'm not happy about the lives lost. But I don't want more to come. That's why I'm spending my time here speaking common sense.
Your point is that left leaning Americans are protesting the actions of our government but not the actions of a far worse foreign government? I think it’s kind of ridiculous to compare the two. It’s entirely reasonable for Americans to care more about the state of American democracy (and its slippage to autocracy) than the state of democracy in foreign countries that are already firmly autocratic.
We are between a rock and a hard place. Protests are getting angrier and angrier and are becoming larger and larger . Protestors believe they are in the right and that ICE is violating the law. Trump and his admin believe the left is stirring up protests and creating chaos. Just like protestors could lie down and write op-eds like Vance suggested, ICE could develop a different policing strategy that would help turn down the temperature. The buck stops with Trump. He's got the keys . Its unreasonable to expect protestors to lose interest , especially after lets call them "accidental" killings. Walz has encouraged recording with phones and peaceful protest. He cant mind control people into sedation. However, Trump easily could say that we are a nation of laws and we will prove to you that we are conducting deportations/ enforcement with transparency. And unmask ice officers, require warrants and due process. Lying about Pretti does the opposite.
Fairly sure universities were shut down, cities were blockaded, civilians killed and millions in property damaged because a foreign government didn't want their kids killed at music festivals by these same protestors. Is their argument only governments with white people should be held to their rules? Isn't that racism?
Only in Minneapolis. The ONLY reason that there are problems in Minneapolis is because the state and city refuse to uphold the law. ICE is rounding up FAR greater numbers of illegals across the country without problems.
Explain how you extract when local officials won't release prisoners to you, you can't search homes knowingly housing illegals and local law enforcement does nothing to prevent mobs of people from impeding you, doxxing you and trashing the hotel officers stay at. This is real life , not a disney movie. Operating under the pretense you can magically assign court dates to 20 million unvetted people who will always show up, and never commit any crimes until those dates 4 years in the future, is peak delusion.
Kyle was attacked by a leftist arsonist after he put out the arsonist's fire. This all came about because leftist government officials refused to protect the properties of constituents and that's why Kyle was there. Your ideology is that citizens must do nothing while loony leftists burn down their life's work because your government masters want to appease the criminal radicals. Why are you such an a**hole?
