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  1. Aruba77

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    Omg. Love Sengun but my pet peeves with him are

    1). Dribbling out of control from the top of the key

    2). The shitty screens he sets
    3). Poor foul shooting

    All of these can be corrected and if he does, he’ll be so much better.
     
  2. kjayp

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    We are presently 7th on fg% - and thats after the dismal couple weeks of shooting.... 7th while at the same we are #1 in rebounding... been leading the league on 2nd chance points...

    Why do folks have to construct these narratives to try to propel their mistaken beliefs and agendas? These arent either/or scenarios... its about a balance... a balance between offense and defense... a balance between shooters and rebounds... I'm not saying that we have the perfect balance... but 4th on offense, 8th on defense... 4th on net rating...

    Our problems are being 25th on free throws and 26th on turnovers....

    Everything isnt about getting Reed Sheppard more court time and shots and screens, etc...
     
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  3. Hemingway

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    What are we on efg% and where do we stand on defensive rebounding? 3 is worth more than 2 according to my math.
     
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  4. kjayp

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    were middle of the pack on efg... but the fact remains... 4th on offense, 8th on defense... 4th on net rating...

    I'd love to get another shooter... id love for us to tweak our shot selection... but this whole chicken little mindset that we totally suck is not supported by the #s...


    ...and we're 5th on defensive rebound %...


    now if somebody wants to run the numbers with whatever tweaks they want to make... i]ll put those numbers up against our 2nd chance points....
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    37th and 28th.

    There is a lot going on. Up to mid-November, the Amen, Okogie, JSJ, Durant, Sengun was destroying teams. Around mid November, opposing teams upped how much they were sagging off non-shooters, but the Rockets kept winning because Reed was going crazy. The team is getting better at handling the sagging off, but with Reed and/or JSJ sucking, the Rockets just have not been good enough. Okogie to me has been the biggest problem other than shooters missing shots since around mid Novemeber. His man is always playing 2.9 defense messing up Amen and Sengun often when they drive/cut.

    Maybe the Double Bigs starting messes up the rotations, but for most of the season it has worked at least okay (there were a few rough games in December) just getting overlapped time here and there while not a starting lineup. I'm not a big fan of the double bigs, but the biggest issues with the double bigs are also issues with single big lineups with only 2 shooters on the court.

    Rockets really need some combination of Tari getting healthy, DFS playing like Laker or Maverick versions of himself, and Reed making a ton of shots. I think if the Rockets shooters play well, the Rockets will play better than the double bigs with a single or no big. If you are going to have three non shooters on the court, no reason 2 of them can't be centers.
     
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    Complaining to the refs instead of running back on defense
     
  7. Hemingway

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    When you lose to 9 bottom feeders, it kind of does. We made a trade for Kevin Durant because we were expecting to be a contender. We may not “totally” suck, but compared to expected outcomes we do suck and full season numbers half way through the season, don’t tell the whole story. The fact of the matter is our “re-build” was not as far along as we thought it was or our coach is not as good as we thought he was.
     
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    I’m not trying to be a smart ass. In the original post you quoted efg% and defensive rebounding not rankings. Can you please make it more apples to apples? A lot of what you say makes sense. The numbers when Jabari plays well speak to the importance of shooting on our record. When Jabari plays well we win. We need more room for error and we need to get our injured players back.
     
  9. kjayp

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    we lost our starting pg.... and we're 3 games outta 2nd place in the west... 3 games after an inordinate amount of road games....

    folks were saying the Clippers were gonna be a top contender.... id say that we are in much better shape then they are... lol


    we're averaging nearly 19 second chance points a game... 19! If u can find me a shooter that can turn 2pt shots into 3pointers a game and deliver at that rate...
    Personally, id rather rely on Adams and Sengun to maintain a high efficeincy on rebounds rather than depend on somebody(s) to shot 3s at that clip... bc, well... 0-27 happens....lol
     
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    Reminded me of the Old Barkley team, overestimated the overall strength of the team.

     
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    No one is saying turnovers aren't a massive problem IMHO that is our biggest one, but there are things that cause turnovers - primarily the wrong people with the ball in their hands, a lack of system to where everyone can touch the ball and be successful.

    Rebounding - on offense leaves you very prone as it hurts your transition defense....

    Cherry picking stats and pretending to understand the game, makes people look like casuals.

    Anyone wonder why turnovers are high when you run double big? Two bigs that are not the greatest of ball handlers? Or that we have a high TURNOVER guy in Durant trying to create - when he is an excellent finisher.

    Double big sucks, but could work, if either of those bigs could shoot a 3pt shot......or could be a low turnover passer. We have the wrong people playing with the wrong people, with a loose system that has the wrong people with the ball in their hands trying to pass to the wrong people to finish - it is a cluster **** out there, and simply saying....well we are 5th in shooting efficiency without recognizing all those turnovers we get literally NO SHOT up is lazy analysis.

    There is a lot more nuance going on, ON THE FLOOR that you can't track by stats alone.

    People should dig deeper into what is CAUSING those stats.

    DD
     
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  12. kjayp

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    The Barkley Rockets? We were a bear hug away... and if Reed, ahem i mean Maloney had been worth a damn... lol
     
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    Replace the role players with 23 year olds and a 21 year old PG.

     
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    Reed is miles better than Maloney...come on now, that is just a terrible comparison.

    DD
     
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    Awesome, 4th in offense, 8th on defense and not even in the contender race. You can celebrate that if you want, for a win now season we're underperforming. We don't look like anywhere close to the true contenders in Denver and OKC. Like not at all. Spurs look better than we do.
     
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    lol what a dumbass . You have been the king of bad takes.

    Imagine spending half your existence attacking a de facto rookie and spending more effort protecting a dude that couldn’t keep it in his pants for his team
     
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    He’s a Udoka but plug
     
  18. Joe Joe

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    The 37th and 28th for your preferred starting lineup are percentiles like the numbers I cited for the double bigs (any lineup with Adams and Sengun) per Cleaning the Glass. Adams and Sengun double big lineups on average are better than 78% (52.8%) of lineups in regards to eFG% and 74 percent of lineups (72.3%) in defensive rebounding. The Amen, Okogie, JSJ, Durant, and Sengun lineup on average is better than 37% of lineups in regards to eFG% and 28 percent of lineups in defensive rebounding. I choose eFG% because it is easy to get from Cleaning the Glass.

    Am I the only one dying laughing about this? The offensive rebounding hurts transition defense narrative was created by the nerds on analytical teams using stats from the late 90s and early 2000s. It was right based on their stats. The current trend of offensive rebounding has found an exception and is based a lot on tagging, which slows the outlet, disrupts defensive rebounding, and naturally puts a player between their man and the basket. Adams slamming two guys under the basket is not hurting the transition defense. Making contact with your man while you see if you can get the offensive rebound does not hurt transition defense. Guys just don't have sand in their pants anymore.
     
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    When Adams doesn't get the rebound he also doesn't get back and protect the paint.

    DD
     
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    I love Steven, but if he is out an extended period of time this may be a blessing in disguise for Ime to stop using his gimmick double big line up. Capela is too fat and out of shape for Ime to try to plug him and Sengun together. Get well Steven.
     
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