I always feel so duped whenever I watch Jabari he was supposed to be this elite shooter, and he’s just nowhere close if there’s one thing he was supposed to do at a high level, it’s shoot…and he just doesn’t the sample size is large enough to where you can’t even hold out hope anymore that he eventually lives up to his pre-draft billing as a shooter I can only imagine what Orlando was thinking when he had his workout with them…they’re bringing in the consensus #1 overall pick at the moment, and his shooting is nowhere near elite, he can’t dribble, isn’t that athletic, and moves like a stiff This guy is the #1 pick?
Bari believers will say Bari is still young, Pippen jr. sucks, Jalen Smith sucks, ...; get real to his poison pill contract and over-hyped potential * Pippen Jr. career per 36min. numbers: 17.1pt. / 5.3reb. / 7.2asi. /2.3stl.; .481/.401(4.7attemps); a pest on defense; only making $2.2mil./ on a 3yr contract. this is exactly what this team needs right now. He's currently injured but is scheduled to return this month. * the Portland FRP is lottery protected through 2028 or it becomes Portland 2028 second-round pick, there's some risk here * trading Bari this season saves about $14mil. in the 26-27 cap, that solves Tari's extension this year and Amen's next year. and maybe the team can sign an extra TMLE player this summer. wait 1 more year and I don't think you can trade Bari for anything with positive value no more
Who plays PF when Tari is inevitably nursing an injury? Jalen Smith LOL, maybe Jeff Green? Double bigs? Jabari is in a slump, but his trade value is way more than this. Panicky fans are amuck on CF.
I'm right there with you on the analysis of Jabari's game and physical attributes, but this part is unfair. Most 22 year olds will not know their place in the league. Before his recent cold stretch Jabari was playing pretty efficiently. He's not been very aggressive for most of his career so it's not like he's delusional about his strengths, he's not a chucker out to get his. There isn't any indication that the coaching staff is trying to reign him in and he's refused. For all we know they gave him a green light to try and expand his game this season. And painting Jabari as a diva for getting into it vocally with teammates as a 19 year old, when he's been a professional ever since, is a reach. He was benched in the clutch the very next season for Jeff Green and he took it in stride. That's not diva behavior. Mid 30s Melo and AI refusing to even entertain the idea of coming off the bench is diva behavior.
87.3% of Jabari's shots are open or wide open. Of those shots, he's making 33.5%. The sample size is almost half a season. Please stop bullshitting everyone about recency bias. This is not a last week issue.
Jabari keeps failing all of Ime's test. Pelicans game = Kept him in end of 3rd and 4th quarter with a 20+ point lead and he failed spectacularly, bricked every shot, got targeted relentless by Sadiq Bey who had his best game of the seaosn Nuggets game = Should've been a feel good blow out win. Ime kept him in as the only starter with reserves in garbage time. The huge lead down was cut down to 4 points after just a few minutes. Ime was forced to sub Durant and the other starters back in. This became a moral win for Adelman who brought it up in his postgame interview. Both Blazers games = Kept him in crunch time when he was bricking every shot and fouled on 3 straight possessions which effectively ended the 2nd game. Proceeded to sabotage the team in the absolute worst ways. Kings game = Had him shoot the technical free throw and he bricked it. Ime was furious on the bench.
This is what I am thinking. I don't get how can Jabari brick so many open shots. Dude looks like a scrub. Did he have any real shooting practice? He must be lazy on practice.
I am not worried about hindsight or thinking about that. We could’ve included Jabari and the sun trade. But I am, more than ever beginning to wonder about trading him. I still think he has value
I completely agree. I’m just pointing out that 60% of the posts on the BBS or just based in hindsight. The trade was still a good one. Even picking Smith at three was still relatively logical. I was very annoyed with the conclusion of last night’s game, but this team has a higher ceiling than last year. We need to make adjustments, and I think it more likely than not that those adjustments come along.
No it isn't unfair at all. The guys who survive in this league know exactly what they do well, and they work on it from day one. Meanwhile, Jabari said this just last off-season: quote is from here - https://sports.yahoo.com/article/of...hNu759LH8uPA-f3jl6ArSYp32cI4JyZGvU3SClXYMb4yh Now, maybe in a few years, he'll figure out that he's never going to be a guy who can dribble effectively or create his shot effectively. But if 3 years of watching the best ball-handlers and best shot creators up close hasn't clued him in to the vast gulf between their skills and his, I'm not sure anything will. That's what I'm referring to when I say he lacks self-awareness. To some extent, his ability to indulge his fantasies of being "a whole different player" have been limited because the other guys don't pass him the ball unless he's wide open for a shot. If he was on a team where he was handed the ball every time down the court, he very well could have been chucking up shots Of course if that had been the case, I don't think he would've had his third or fourth year rookie option picked up and he might have set a record for turnovers. Thankfully, the Rockets did not put him in such a position - Jalen and KPJ weren't exactly passing the ball much during their tenure together, and FVV was too smart to do anything like that. I'll give him this - he's not a knucklehead (thankfully, the jawing he did as a rookie seems to have ceased, which is why - as I stated before - my reasons for disliking him evolved) and he does work hard. But that lack of self-awareness means he isn't working hard on the things that could make him a truly elite role player - like entry passes, setting good screens, and most importantly, improving his shooting percentage (particularly from outlet passes).
They make diff amounts of money you cant say Jabari or Jalen. Suns need 55M of matching salary and Jalen makes 35, Jabari made like 8M or something.
As for Jabari I think he needs to reassess himself, in his interview he said he was the best shooter on the team so I think he sees himself as KD Jr. I never saw him as Rashard Lewis or KD, he seemed more like Al Horford. He should be doing 50-50 of power plays and shooting 3s rather than just shooting every play. He should just go hard to the basket or shoot open 3s as a spacer, instead he tries to be KD and take those mid range Js that dont go in and lead to fastbreaks for the opponent. CF always does this wanna buy high and sell low. Jabari is only 22 and should have a long snd productive NBA career. He is going thru a cold spell right now but thats normal for 22 yr olds.
Well yeah, when you average 35 MPG (38 in losses) and you suck ass, your team is probably going to lose. I'm not sure why this should make me want to fire him into the sun any less. And Jabari is the only starter whose efficiency falls off a cliff when he plays big minutes. In 6 games playing 40+ his TS% is .470, vs .564 when playing < 40 (and .650 when playing < 20). He also shoots more (14.4 FGA) in losses than in wins (11.5), which is a significantly bigger difference than you'd expect if you simply accounted for the minute increase. When you put all this information together, it tells me that we stick with him way too long when he's off and it ends up killing us, just like the second Portland game.
I really wish the org would consider trading Bari for good return. If it happens I think it will be this offseason; certainly not at the trade deadline. But I have a feeling the org overvalues Bari, and I’m worried his value isn’t what it was coming into the season. We should all be hoping he has a good 2nd half, either for his long term prospects as a Rocket or for his trade value this offseason. Let’s face it, he can’t play any worse so hopefully the arrow is pointing up.
This is a very reasonable take. Jabari is 22 years old. It’s no surprise that he is inconsistent. That being said he, I think his ceiling is an excellent 3&D forward, not a star. That will never satisfy the guys that are always bringing up where a guy was drafted.
