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[NY Post] Trump wants to buy Greenland, again, after claiming US could take back ownership of Panama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Dec 23, 2024.

  1. jo mama

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    darth vader, hitler and tojo all made the same claims that trump and his sycophants are now making. the ones claiming might makes right are never the good guys. many of our grandfathers fought against people who espouse the things that yall are now advocating for. f***ing pathetic.
     
  2. astros123

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    Why dont you MAGA morons @Tomstro understand the concept we got unlimited access to the island already and we can stage any military planes/boats on the island already. If china ever attacks a US base in Greenland the entire EU continent will come to the rescue of America.

    I sincerely dont think these MAGA dumbasses understand that we already got a military base on the island.
     
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    I keep saying this and it’s like I’m talking to a wall.

    Also having this thing called NATO (which props up our military industrial complex) is bigger deterrent to Russia that having a chunk of Ice in the Arctic with the right name on it ever will.

    But you and I know these idiots are lying about how much they say they care now about Russia today when it’s convenient for them in the moment. The past 10 years nearly all of them have been gaslighting us about how we shouldn’t care at all about Russia doing things like meddle in our elections etc.

    They don’t care about Russia. They want the United States to be the Russia of the western hemisphere. Even if it means our country turns into a corrupt kleptocracy where the people suffer under a brutal regime… they don’t care because they all believe in that fantasy they will FEEL personally powerful over the people they hate.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    I honestly think the Greenland thing may just be a troll to get non-MAGA hating on Trump which in turn get MAGA hating on non-MAGA. Everybody digs their heels in, picks their team and starts talking trash instead of talking about the things that everybody agrees are gross about Donald.

    It's a great way for him to distract from everybody from uniting around things like the non-release of the Epstein Files and the Jan 6 criminal insurection conspiracy.

    Even the Venezuelan thing begins to look more and more like fireworks/performance art/The Jerry Springer Show, designed to distract and dazzle more that any actual meaningful policy or plan for change.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    QUOTE="HTM, post: 15993180, member: 55841"]Yea I famously remember the world wars that started when the U.S. acquired Guam/Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[/QUOTE]




    Puerto Rico and Guam were acquired in 1898 after the Spanish–American War. The U.S. Virgin Islands were purchased from Denmark in 1917 specifically to keep them out of German hands during WWI.

    Notice the date on that last one? 1917. Middle of World War I.

    That purchase wasn't some innocent real estate deal... it was a strategic move in an active global conflict where major powers were scrambling for territorial advantage.

    That's exactly the kind of great-power competition that defined the pre-WWII international order: empires and nations treating territory as prizes to be won, bought, or seized based on whoever had the power to take them (for their strategic defense, value, or whatever).

    And here's what that system produced:
    • World War I (1914–1918): 15–20 million dead
    • World War II (1939–1945): 70–85 million dead
    • Total: nearly 100 million people killed in just 31 years
    After WWI, the international community tried to build a new system (the League of Nations) to prevent this from happening again. It failed, largely because the U.S. didn't join.

    After WWII, they tried again. This time the U.S. participated, and we built the United Nations, international law, mutual defense treaties, and a rules-based order that says powerful countries don't just get to take what they want.

    Has it been perfect? No.
    Do wars still happen? Yes.
    But has it prevented another world war or direct great-power conflict for 80 years? Yes.

    What you're defending (what Trump is openly advocating) is a return to that old system. One where might makes right, international norms are meaningless, and smaller nations exist only at the mercy of larger ones.

    We already tried that. It ran from roughly the 1870s through 1945.

    It produced two world wars, the collapse of multiple empires, genocides, fascism, global economic collapse, and nearly destroyed human civilization.

    The post-WWII order wasn't built because diplomats were naive idealists. It was built because the alternative had already been tried and the body count was unacceptable.

    And now?

    We have a POTUS demonstrating historical illiteracy that risks repeating it.. and too many of his supporters who either can't or won't understand what's at stake.

    I let ignorance slide all the time. But this isn't just ignorance. This is dangerous.
     
  6. HTM

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    You couldn't educate a 6 year old.

    The Philippines population in 1900 was estimated between 6.5-7 million.

    Comparing the situation currently with Greenland (50,000) to the situation with Guam (8,000 in 1900 as you claim) is FAR more apt.

    The Philippines is/was dense canopy jungle and thousands of islands ideally suited for an insurgency. The Philippine struggles to govern and handle insurgencies to this day.

    Greenland, the part that isn't ice sheet, is mostly grass land or tundra with hardly any vegetation let alone forests.

    The most logical, plausible and responsible course of action for the Danish government would be to tell their citizens not to resist any U.S. attempt to seize the island.

    Even if they wanted to, there are approximately 50,000 Greenlanders. 25,000 males. Approximately 12,500 who are over 18 and under 65. How many would be interested in signing up to participate in guerilla activities against the United States knowing they would almost certainly be killed?

    Get grip. You're an idiot.
     
  7. HTM

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    What gives the Danes any more right to govern Greenland than the United States? They stole that land.

    The land your fat ass sits on was stolen from some Indians who stole it from some other Indians. When are you giving it back?

    Spare me the moralizing.
     
  8. HTM

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    You referenced the Philippines where people died.

    I retorted with Guam where people didn't die.

    But obviously you don't like that because it shows land can be appropriated with 0 deaths.

    Acquiring Greenland is 100% in the interests of the American people. That's why we have attempted it several times across administrations over the last 160 odd years.

    Trump didn't come up with the idea and the artic is increasingly seen as a theatre of geostrategic importance and that importance has only been growing in experts eyes.
     
  9. Mr.Scarface

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    Sort of like how the US stole land from Mexico and the Native Americans, huh?
     
  10. HTM

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    Yea, the U.S. should bear the lions share of the burden of defending Greenland but Denmark should get to own it.

    Seems fair.
     
  11. Mr.Scarface

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    I would tell them to fight like HELL.
     
  12. HTM

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    Yea, you're sitting on stolen land Mr. Scarface when are you contacting the tribe it was stolen from to give it back?

    Mexicans stole it from the Spanish who stole it from Indians.

    Better go figure out who you should sign your deed over to.
     
  13. AleksandarN

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    Again how many people are you willing to kill? To do the wishes of Trump? Simple question. Also if a populace doesn’t want to be ruled what will you be willing to do to get them to submit to your power? You keep avoiding the question. I used the Philippines because they didn’t want to ruled by anyone but their own people. So I ask again what you willing to do in a situation where the populace doesn’t not want to submit and give up their governance.
     
  14. HTM

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    The ones dumb enough to attempt violence against American military forces, which, hopefully, would be none.

    Love how you're ducking the smack down I just gave you and don't follow up on any of those points at all jaja.
     
  15. Mr.Scarface

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    If Trump tries to take Greenland by force, I think this is where the Military revolts.
     
  16. AleksandarN

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    There is a difference when you are taking it by force against the will of the people. False equivalency at its finest to justify your whackass defense of your cult leader. **** you cultists are really are stupid
     
  17. AleksandarN

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    It’s called being in the NATO alliance.
     
  18. astros123

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    The funniest thing about this thread is MAGA @HTM will argue that we need Greenland supposedly for national security but just last month Trump reversed bidens export ban thus allowing high end chips be sold to china and used in high end weapons against America.



    Military wont revolt. Trump has fired 50+ generals and has cleansed the ranks of the military
     
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  19. AleksandarN

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    Trump doesn’t have will of people here. So yeah good luck. But @HTM foesnt care he is willing to go on his knees for Trump. **** these cultist are stupid. Does even have the support of the people here or there.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/06/politics/trump-western-hemisphere-americans-polling

     
  20. Mr.Scarface

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    Yep. 3 wrongs don’t make a right. Ancestors were brought here in chains against they will. Only can try to fight against injustice now.
     

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