Would you rather have Jabari or Mobley in 2026-2030?

They always show up on a random Tuesday morning thinking we won't notice. Strawberry was right, they're 50+ yr old.

 

Why would the Rockets want a center that cannot shoot 3’s over Jabari? Duren may be a better player, but he is not a fit on a team with Sengun. Jabari will never be as strong as Duren and certainly won’t be able to play interior defense as well, but his outside shooting is what makes him more valuable than Duren to this team. Roll your eyes all you want. Everybody knows how pessimistic you are about virtually all of our young core. Just par for the course. Twin towers won’t work in today’s NBA, but you are stuck in a former era.

 

Personally I thought Banchero was gonna be a franchise player just based on his rookie year however he didn't really improve, not even the modest improvement Jalen showed like Jalen marginally improved his shooting and his FT% improved a lot Banchero was still the same dude statistically after 5 years. Getting paid the max took the cake for me lol.

 

This is exactly what I've been saying about players like Banchero. These third tier star players aren't good enough to carry a team to glory but they cannot be anything else other than the first option. And you have to pay them the max dollar.

I would take Mobley over Banchero any day because Mobley doesn't have to be the alpha although his contract is too steep.

 

I sort of agree with Samfisher I do think Duren is better than Jabari however looking at how things are turning out Duren is gonna make the rookie max so its gonna be Mobley 2.0 where Jabari is still be better because he is on a better contract and Duren will be overpaid.

Duren btw wanted a 30M deal before he broke out so for sure he wants a max now.

 

I think they are both just as bad as both are overpaid. Mobley will give you an efficient 16/7, Banchero will give you an inefficient 24/14/9.

Both prevent you from getting good players.

 

Duren and Cade are carrying the pistons to the number 1 seed. They win games even without Cade.

Durens fg percentage is very efficient, anchors the paint defense, and gets boards. Nothing like Jabari and Mobley.

Jabari, KD, and Sengun we're getting wrecked by sub 500 teams until Tari and DFS showed up.

 

They play in the East though, if they played in the West where all the big boys are they wont be no 1 seed maybe top 6 if at that.

They also just lost to Clippers, Mavs and Jazz so how's that different from us?

 

This board told me he didn't have the motor to become much in the NBA while JG had a mamba mentality work ethic. For some reason I believed it. Last time I do that.

All things being equal I'd rather have Mobley, but as others have mentioned I'll take Jabari for half the price 100 times out of 100.

 

Mobley can play with another star without diminishing his impact. Banchero is holding Wagner back, IMO.

 

I get your arguments but this part I disagree with because at the end of the day if the Rockets are lifting that trophy this year and Jabari is playing the 30 or so minutes on this team no one will give a single F about Mobley, Paolo, Chet, whoever...everyone will adore him and say he did what the team needed to win a ring.

At that point, if that happens, then Jabari was the right pick and he's the right guy.

Was Harden better than Klay for his entire career? Of course, but did Warrior fans want Harden over Klay? Hell no. They trusted Klay, they knew Klay did what the team asked of him and he fit in perfectly with what the team wanted to do and according to the rumors had turned down Harden to keep Klay and there isn't a single Warrior fan I've seen that regrets them turning that trade down despite Harden undoubtedly being the better player than Klay.

So I do think there is an argument to be made that Jabari is better for the team thus better in the mind of a Rocket fans. Is he a better player than Mobley or Duren? No, not right now at least.

But I do think sometimes we get wrapped up in stats and all this when the goal is winning. Are you a winning team player? I'd take Draymond Green over an ENTIRE list of Hall of Fame players on my team because I know he's a winning player.

I'd take Manu over a whole list of SGs because I know he's a winning player.

As far as Mobley vs Jabari for this team, I don't know, his shooting is markedly worse than Jabari from three and this team needs floor spacers considering we have Amen and Sengun and both need to be played. I think he fits this team like a glove, younger, better contract, and unlike you I think 22 year old players do have the ability to improve and history shows that and I think he has improved this year so no.

Every time I've seen Mobley in big games, games that matter, he rarely impresses. He seems kind of mentally indifferent or weak tbh. I mean in that weakened East without Boston or Haliburton and Giannis in and out the lineup that Cleveland team with that talent should be A LOT better.

Meanwhile, Jabari seems ready for big moments and big shots, fiery, seems like he likes big moments and big games.

 

Both are just meh. Very good role players. Maybe even top tier at some point in Jabaris case.

 

I think there is some potential with Evan but it was obvious that the league and media crowned him DPOY before he was one clearly.

They pushed this narrative on everyone, they clearly wanted him to succeed as an Offensive weapon even.

 

He is shooting more per game and they don’t look as flat as his first couple seasons. He has made great str

I don’t think any one player stands out in that group. All have major weaknesses and limitations but they each bring different skills. Jabari is well rounded and is a winning player. Glad we have him.

 

Who are all the players you would have had over Mobley for DPOY last year?

 

For me, I think the Mobley is a bit overrated by sports journo types and some fans, but a bit underrated on ClutchFans due to lingering baggage from the 2021 Draft and people's biases showing through.

On balance, I would characterize him as kind of "elite roleplayer" who is so good at what he does that he will deservedly make a few all-star teams. You can't build a franchise around him, not even as the #2 option, but he can be a very good complimentary piece on offense and a key player on defense.

Jabari isn't at the same level on defense, and probably never will be, although I think the two of them are pretty close on offense. Jabari may become the better scorer in the future since his jump shooting has the potential to be very high-level, but that will depend on if and how much he improves. Mobley is a couple of years older and may be at or near his ceiling.

It's unlikely that Jabari will ever be quite as good as Mobley due to the gap between them defensively. He would have to become a #2 option type of player on offense to be the better overall player IMO, and I don't think that's all that likely. However, I think if his shooting continues to improve, he might end up being pretty close, and he's getting paid about half as much money.

 

Yea we’ll be 1st too if we get to feed on those leastern teams almost every game.

 

I would take Jabari Smith or Jalen Duren over both. Duren is just way better at the Mobley thing than Mobley is. Would take Chet over any of them though.

 

Anyone who would prefer overpaid losers like Banchero and Mobley over Jabari is an absolute imbecile and someone who just hates life.