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[Minnesota News] Massive COVID Fund Fraud Ring Busted.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Sep 20, 2022.

  1. Astrodome

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    Are investigations ongoing? Will the 0.13% number rise? What % would make the # significant?
     
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    They have been charged is my understanding. I personally only use data on actual cases, not rumors or reports of more is coming, if that’s what’s going on.

    As for what % is significant enough to indicate a cultural issue, you tell me. I don’t know - haven’t given it much thought. Certainly the level now is absurd to be argued as cultural.
     
  5. Astrodome

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    It looks like the media has caught wind so the number could potentially rise. I don't know why that they dont tell the "reporters" that there are kids in the building. He wouldn't have a right to see them so then he could kick rocks. But for some reason they get quiet when asked if there are actual children inside.
     
  6. Amiga

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    What? I thought we were talking about healthcare fraud.
     
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    The Somali community is a large part of Minneapolis and the community.

    There is something like 75,000 Somali's in Minneapolis - and about half were born in the USA.

    So I don't think it is weird for people in Minneapolis to support their friends and neighbors that are Somali.

    Especially with the President referred to Somali's as "lazy" recently.

    Having said that - I find the wearing of the Hajib to be odd, the lady isn't a Muslim, and she isn't Somalian.
     
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    There has been fraud in Minnesota involving state funds that were ear marked to pay for meals for poor children in the state.

    About a decade ago, a white woman (because apparently the President has decided this is a race issue on this topic) formed an organization that was to seek funding from the government to provide meals to children in poverty. A disproportionate number of children in poverty in Minnesota are Somali.

    The organization would then distribute the money to lower level businesses to feed children.

    The organization seems to have been uncorrupt until COVID.

    During COVID, the local and federal government limited red tape because it was a crisis and people needed help.

    Once the red tape was removed, the level of fraud from this lady and her organization greatly increased.

    What isn't true - is the idea that the government in Minnesota did not try to do anything.

    Minnesota sued to get the lady and organization to stop based on fraud allegations.

    A judge said no - that there wasn't sufficient proof.

    So the Justice Department got involved - and here we are.

    The idea that this is some sort of Somali master plan to defraud is false.

    The ring leader isn't Somali.

    There are certainly Somali's involved, as there are a number of Somali charities.

    I am not surprised that Trump and his media are attempting to make this about Somali's.

    Minneapolis is a very blue city - Miller and Trump want to deport Somali's, as they have a very high poverty rate entering the USA, many are Muslim and most don't speak English when they come to the USA.

    Also - immigration is Trump's strongest issue with voters - he thinks it is a winner from him, and distracts from everyone discussing whether the President ****ed children.
     
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    The federal fraud in MN has evolved to include Day Care centers in recent years.
     
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    LOL Okay.

    Look, fraud doesn't know a single political party --- there are lots of examples of fraud by actual Democratic politicians, and fraud is ripe in poverty when it comes to distributing funds. Has been the case in the USA for well over 150 years.

    Having said that - it is very hard to find a more fraudulent President than Donald Trump.... there have been others that were bad, and some of them Democrats.... but Trump is at the level of Andrew Johnson and possibly Warren Harding. He makes USS Grant and Bill Clinton seem above board.
     
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    I was talking specifically about charged healthcare fraud cases, because that’s the only solid data point we have. That’s the post you replied to.

    Daycare allegations, media reports, or “more may be coming” aren’t data until charges are filed. I’m not disputing investigations exist, I’m saying I won’t treat speculation as data.

    You also asked what percentage would indicate a “cultural” issue. I don’t see a defensible threshold where a tiny fraction of offenders justifies labeling an entire group. Even if a few dozen daycare cases are added, it won’t materially change the percentage.

    If you want to argue culture, bring numbers that actually support that claim. Otherwise, this stays an enforcement issue, not a cultural one.
     
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    TDS-afflicted guys like you are eager to believe any and all lies about Trump while simultaneously ignoring and dismissing all of the REAL and MASSIVE theft committed by your ideological leaders.

    Guys like you flooded the U.S. with hundreds-of-thousands of Somalis who are mostly on welfare and who have committed cataclysmic theft against the American people. Why did you do that to us?

    You and your leftist friends are RADICALS and poor and middle-class Americans would be infinitely better off if you left the political arena and leave governing to sane Americans.
     
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    Radical leftists like this delusional poster have done incomprehensible damage to poor and middle-class Americans. The monolithic theft that they made happen can never be recouped. They are cemented to their idiotic and suicidal ideology of bringing all of the third-world filth to the U.S. and annihilating the lives of the American people.
     
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    All these MAGA @Astrodome @K9Texan crying about Somalian fraud have no issue with their orange messiah and cult leader conning his base.

    "Patrica if you want your tariff check then send me some money and I'll add you to a fake list to send it out to you" lol. The president scamming old folks out of their money and no biggie for the cultists

     
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    I hear your frustration, but broad statements about entire groups or “third-world filth” aren’t supported by evidence and risk unfairly stigmatizing people. If the goal is to highlight real harm, it’s more productive to point to concrete policies, data, or verified cases that have measurable impact. That way the discussion stays factual rather than purely emotional.
     
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    Poor and middle-class Americans like me, my family, and friends are going without basics because radicals such as yourself are committed to bringing as many penniless, illiterate, criminal, Muslims as possible to this country. You ignore us while giving them free housing, medical, food, and support them after learning of the most extreme levels of welfare theft in human history. Radical leftists such as yourself are the death of western civilization, for which you entirely indifferent.
     
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    I hear your frustration, and it’s valid that many are struggling. But if we want to talk about real causes, we should focus on specifics. For example: health care costs have risen dramatically in part because policies have left many uncovered and subsidies limited; tax cuts heavily favoring the wealthy have increased deficits while shifting burdens to ordinary Americans; tariffs and trade policies have raised the cost of goods; and government spending priorities often fail to help those most in need.

    Blaming a group of people for these outcomes doesn’t address the actual drivers. If we want solutions, we need to look at the policies and choices that are measurable and concrete.
     
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    An an example... If we look at specifics, the Trump tax cuts gave the richest 1 percent an average cut of $61,000 in 2025, while middle‑ and lower‑income households got much smaller reductions. At the same time, those cuts contributed to deficits that make it harder to fund programs that support healthcare, housing, and other essentials for middle- and lower-income Americans. So while the wealthy gained, many ordinary families face higher costs and fewer resources.
     
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    I am sure there is a thread for that. Stay focused.
     
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    You support open borders, unlimited immigration, and free everything for everyone who comes and tens-of-MILLIONS of foreigners have done exactly that. Why do you support this and how do you not understand that sky-high medical costs is a direct result of your suicidal, anti-American, policies?
     

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