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Jabari Smith Jr. is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houston77, Jul 7, 2023.

  1. Arnel

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    We have to trade him immediately!! He's horrible!
     
  2. Arnel

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    He definitely wasn't a "0 dribble" bari LOL
     
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  3. Arnel

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    The reason why it seems to you like he misses a lot more 3s is because we have like 3 or 4 or 5 idiots on the board who lose their **** anytime he misses a three and immediately start trashing him and calling him names and for the team to get rid of him LOL... Hence, those misses are just highlighted a lot more. You can have some other players shoot a whole lot worse, and crickets. But for some reason if Jabari misses a few shots, the sky is falling and we must get rid of him :D it's quite comical actually
     
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    I think it's really interesting that the time KD arrived on this team is the time when he can basically only do the things that physically speaking Jabari can also do. By which I mean, KD is more jump shot reliant than at any previous time in his career. He used to be more sneaky-athletic and more of a threat to drive. Was very fluid out there in a way that Jabari will never be. This aging version of KD, though, has lost a lot of that, but is better than ever at just shooting over guys and knocking 'em down.

    Hopefully Jabari can pick up on some of that. It would be a lot to expect him to ever come close to matching one of the great jump shooters of all time, but if he can even get to the point where he can reliably give us 18-20 efficient points with solid defense and rebounding, he would be one of the most valuable "roleplayers" in the NBA. That doesn't look outside the realm of possibility at this point, but we'll have to see how he progresses over the next couple of years.
     
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  5. StrawberryJamm

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    Jabari fans are just kind of dumb.

    No one thinks he can’t have good scoring night same as Santi Aldama and John Collins do. He can shoot.

    They don’t pay attention to detail and act like his play and process against the 6 win Pacers in the John Furphy matchup translates 100% to playoff ball. He’s always been great against scrubs.

    I saw the starters defense was damn good and the only reliable place to create space and a spark for a play was to go at Jabari.

    Pacers made a few and missed a few good looks on him. His primary assignment didn’t have an isolation game, Siakam and Nembhard aren’t the dudes to hunt out a weak defender and take him 1 on 1. It wasn’t a problem.

    On offense, we had no issue at all creating flow and getting the Pacers into scrabble rotations and forced to send doubles leaving a good shooter like Jabari. Him not being able to get his own wasn’t a problem.

    If they had good pressure defenders that could guard our other guys straight up without sending help, it would be a problem. Jabari wouldn’t have gotten his open looks and he’s incapable of being the spark to ignite things even when he has opponents worst defender on him.

    I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about Jabari if he works that well in a playoff series versus a good team.
     
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    He had the highest 3p% and highest TS% of the team in last playoffs series against the Warriors.
     
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    Exactly this. Its like the Jalen stans turned into Jabari haters.

    There is also one dude obsessed with denigrating Sengun and if you look through this post history, its literally all it is. Look through the recent post history of the dude denigrating Jabari just two posts above this. Its like 80% Jabari **** talking.
     
    #2767 MystikArkitect, Dec 30, 2025 at 7:38 AM
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  8. StrawberryJamm

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    He averaged 8 pts and 4 rebounds in 18 minutes in the Warriors series. Low mins were due to him being a slow weak spot in the defense.

    And they’re not even the isolation hunting type of team that you really worry about for Jabari.

    Quentin Post was efficient with mid defense too.

    The Thunder didn’t shoot it well, they locked up.
     
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  9. Houston77

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    You say Bari fans are "kind of dumb," but I haven't seen you post anything coherent. You ramble all over the place, using a ton of words to basically say nothing. You're writing style is the exact kind I see from dumb people trying to be smart.
     
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  10. StrawberryJamm

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    I’m not a very good writer, just watch a lot of games and could parallel park my truck between Jabari and the guy he’s guarding.
     
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    well there's your first problem, clearly that's a pull-through space :cool:
     
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  12. StrawberryJamm

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    I know I’m doing the opposite of ‘how to win friends and influence people’.

    insulting and calling people dumb doesn’t work.
    they just get defensive.

    but what I’m saying about Jabari’s defense is true
     
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  13. Arnel

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    Oh I know. That dude (or whoever it is) got some issues lol. Sometimes doesn’t even make coherent posts in his hatred so I don’t take it too seriously :cool: I wish him well and a speedy recovery
     
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    Absolute hyperbole. The only point you seem to make, over and over, is that Bari needs to work on his POA defense v. his help defense. While legitimate, your campaign against him on this singular point is bordering on obsessive. The dude just dropped 21/11 with 3 blocks and you're still whining. And yes, he's not our offensive spark - but who is asking him to be that? The dude is perfect at his job. The fact is that so many on this board are so damn binary - a player is either a superstar, or they're terrible. The inability to see the vastness between those thresholds is absurd. A great team needs guys like KD AND guys like Bari, especially in the second apron era.
     
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    When you are 6’ 11” it is wise to stay back a little and close when the guy picks up his dribble. Jabari also plays team defense. Very few times is it smart for a PF to play in your face defense with quicker players. Jabari is playing just the way he needs to and how his coaches want him to. There is a reason our defense has gone to sh*t the last two years when Jabari had to sit for extended games. Our coach is universally regarded as one of the best defensive coaches in the league and he regularly plays Jabari 30+ mins a game. You are not only a poor writer, but don’t know sh*t about pro basketball.
     
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    He shines when the Furphys of the league guard him and has to be open for set shots. Just don't ask him to guard **** because he will get cooked. Reminds me of Padgett, Ryan Bowen, and the other tall van gundy white player that could only shoot.
     
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    Yeah, Any 6’ 11” guy that can’t dribble should be executed.
     
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  18. StrawberryJamm

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    Our defense has gone to **** with Jabari too.

    That give up space and recover with long arms works against lower talent and doesn’t work against conference finals talent.

    He allows blow bys and gets our defense scrambling and rotating, leaving someone else open.

    Our coach is 50, and played in the 2000’s when Jabari was a championship level role player.

    The game is evolving and more fast POA defenders that can run, pass, shoot, and dribble are playing in championship games than ever before.

    OKC and the Spurs are run by 40 year olds and they don’t look to be aquiring bad POA defenders that can’t dribble.

    All that said, i like Jabari, great guy, hard worker, shot looks great when it goes.

    I’m not saying to cut him, I just think he has more value as a trade piece than as a closer on a championship team taking down the best teams in the league.
     
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    Do the warriors count? Because he was one of only a few players who could hold their head up high after last year.
     
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  20. StrawberryJamm

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    No, he averaged 8 points and 4 rebounds in that series.

    Only played 18 minutes a game because the Warriors were exploiting his lack of speed defensively.

    He made 2 or 3 timely buckets that were very aesthetically pleasing but otherwise Quentin Post matched him exactly for the Warriors.

    Efficient shooting with no creation and mid defense.
     
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