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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by hlmbasketball, Dec 29, 2025 at 9:21 AM.

  1. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

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    We have posted stat after stat that debunks this and you keep spouting this non sense? The board is tired.
     
  2. Red.Glare

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    I mostly agree, but why does the OC 80% of the time on 1st and 2nd down call for a HB run up the middle? That's not on CJ. Kubiak's offense was also rather predictable, but he did vary it somewhat by hitting different parts of the DL. I definitely agree with those calling for more screens. And why not more Shaub-like naked bootlegs? CJ does very well off script and in motion. And I think that is because when in those situations, he doesn't have to think, he just reacts much like he did as a rookie.
     
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    Lol what stat do you think you posted that "debunks" objective reality?
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    CJ has full control over the offense, if he wants to pass more, he can pass more.

    In Kubiak's offense, the QB did not have that freedom so whatever got called is what would happen every down. In the current offense, the QB can change whatever they want if they see something that can be exploited.... but you have to be able to read defenses for that.
     
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    He could have had two more
     
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    Yeah, I said I'm not saying you're wrong. Like I 100% think the OLine is not good. You can see with your own eyes that for big chunks of the last two seasons teams could just get to the QB whenever they want to. However, great QBs still look great behind bad OLines and with bad OCoordinators. They normally look not AS great and might complain, but this level of ineptitude is just really not possible with a great QB.

    It's really shocking how different he is now vs when he was a rookie.
     
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  7. Red.Glare

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    I'm not saying you're wrong, but we don't really know to what extent CJ can actually change plays. Maybe he only has partial control and a run stays a run. Maybe CJ can only change it from a B gap to an A gap run, depending on what the defense is presenting. Nobody has said how much control he actually has now. But I do agree he often processes slowly. In my life I've known very smart people who can't make quick decisions and very dumb people who always react quickly. Though their quick reactions are usually the wrong ones...lol
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Before the season everyone was saying he had total control over the offense, to change protections and the entire play if appropriate. Now maybe after his many poor performances they've walked that back, but i think the assumption should be that they weren't lying.

    I agree that there are smart people that do not process information quickly, but to be a star NFL QB, you need to be reasonably smart but most important is that you have to process information quickly.

    CJ seems to struggle with that, but it's no excuse, he simply has to learn to do better.
     
  9. Mr.Scarface

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    Before the season, he had never run this offense. He is still a Young QB. He doesn't have the experience older QBs have in different systems. There is a reason QBs drafted used to sit out a year or 2. The NFL is HARD. This is where EXPERIENCED coaching comes into play. CJ had to also deal with a porous OLine with virtually no run game. If Mixon were available, this offense would look totally different. A run game is a young QB's best friend.
     
  10. Red.Glare

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    I think the whole CJ question comes down to one's own personality. Some like me are more patient and hopeful, while others just want to move on. Neither side is right nor wrong. And arguing on this forum will never change any of the eventualities...only time will tell. I feel he can still be good because of his rookie year. Such flukes rarely happen in the real world. But still it does happen.
     
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    We still need him to be good, so i hope he can figure it out and return to his rookie promise
     
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