1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Astros trade for Mike Burrows

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Amshirvani, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:28 PM.

  1. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    61,695
    Likes Received:
    139,946
    I guess I am in the minority but this was a pretty important move. The Astros needed at least two quality starting pitchers going into 2026. The Astros still need a #2 starter but they got that #3/4 guy with upside, under control, and low cost.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    70,912
    Likes Received:
    35,208
    I think it's a move that isn't flashy, but we'll look back in a few years and love it.
     
    GOATuve, 13 in 33, itzIce and 8 others like this.
  3. Amshirvani

    Amshirvani Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    6,236
    Likes Received:
    4,263
    as long as he avoids TJS
     
    The Beard and Snake Diggit like this.
  4. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    107,756
    Likes Received:
    111,745
    Nice jinx...now he'll rip up his labrum
     
    Amshirvani likes this.
  5. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,406
    Likes Received:
    12,074
    A 2nd TJS is much rarer than a single one.

    He had his in 2023 so he has much less risk than most starting pitchers
     
    rockbox and Amshirvani like this.
  6. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,406
    Likes Received:
    12,074
    I think this is a great move.

    I am quite confident that at least 2 of Burrows, Javier, Arrighetti, McCullers, Weiss, Blubaugh, or Ullola will ascend to playoff starter caliber.

    If Brown + at least 4 of those 7 stay healthy, I am very confident this staff finishes in the top 10-12 of all teams.

    All they need now is a run producing lefty bat and a back up catcher.

    But I also think they bring back J.V. as long as the money is there after those 2 spots are filled.

    Because of that, I think trading from this depth can still happen with Arrighetti the guy I would bet on.
     
    havoc1, Nook and raining threes like this.
  7. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    He already had TJS in 2023. Can Mike Burrows stay healthy.

    It is a risky trade.
     
    Amshirvani likes this.
  8. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,959
    Likes Received:
    16,731
    That's true for any pitcher. Who knows how many TJS surgeries Brito might have between now and whenever he makes it to the majors. That's the reality for any pitcher in the modern era - even more so if you pitch for the Astros.
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    107,756
    Likes Received:
    111,745
    Is that true though?
     
  10. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,959
    Likes Received:
    16,731
    I'm going with yes.
     
    The Beard and Astrodome like this.
  11. Marshall Bryant

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,827
    Likes Received:
    6,457
    All trades are risky. So are trades not made. At best you simply minimize them. But you never eliminate them.
     
  12. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Messages:
    6,466
    Likes Received:
    7,755
    I don’t see a lot of hate on this trade, at least not on CF.
     
    The Beard and raining threes like this.
  13. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Based on history our Prospects traded have been mid tier to terrible.
     
  14. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Brett Phillips, Josh Hader, Adrian Houser

    Brett Phillips supposed to be a Star CF Mike Trout type, but became a bust.

    Josh Hader and Adrian Houser lived up to expectations as Major Leaguers.
     
    HeyBudLetsParty and vince like this.
  15. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Seth Beer, J.B. Bukauskas, Corbin Martin, Joshua Rojas (Astros side) for Zack Greinke

    Seth Beer is gone I believe
    JB is gone I believe
    Corbin Martin in the league I think
    Joshua Rojas solid career
     
    vince and raining threes like this.
  16. vince

    vince Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2000
    Messages:
    4,051
    Likes Received:
    4,008
    Prospects are the future of baseball. That’s why everyone wants those with the best tools.

    But regarding prospects, it’s a numbers game. When your future hinges on prospects and prospects fail at an overwhelmingly high rate, (75% of pitching prospects fail and 66% of hitting prospects fail), it’s a big gamble especially for a veteran team that has a window of opportunity that keeps getting smaller.

    For a team like the Astros, they did very good in this trade, getting a young ML pitcher, with lots of upside, and who they feel they can turn into a legit #2.

    Melton and Brito have high upside; but so too does Burrow. Sure if Brito hits his potential, he is going to be special; but that might still be 2 years away and by that time any chance of the Astros being competitive might be a puff of smoke.
     
  17. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,751
    Likes Received:
    7,749
    I think a large majority like the deal, it just wasn’t what they expected for two of our top 4 prospects

    Everyone needs to realize that even if we all have some prospects we personally think will be good, baseball in general doesn’t value our farm in the top half of the league, probably not in the top 2-3. Our #2 and 4 ain’t bringing back what most teams 2 and 4 would
     
    Nook and raining threes like this.
  18. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Astros Prospects hasn't been the same since 2011 - 2015
     
    raining threes likes this.
  19. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    9,074
    Ed Wade I think traded Ben Zobrist, Hunter Pence - Clutch Postseason hitters

    Jeff Luhnow mistakes
    JD Martinez released JD was saying he fixed his swing

    Brett Phillips, Josh Hader, Adrian House traded for Carlos Gomez, Mike Fiers

    Worst trade in Astros History Carlos Gomez added on a Home Run against the Yankees in playoffs.
    Mike Fiers got bitter not being a Starter and became a snitch.

    Teoscar Hernandez traded for Aaron Sanchez
     
  20. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    20,340
    Likes Received:
    14,686
    Your point is what?
     

Share This Page