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Is it the Players or the Coaching?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Dec 22, 2025 at 11:49 AM.

  1. hlmbasketball

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    During the course of an 82 game schedule, teams are going to have its Ups and Downs. I can understand Blowouts, becase players get tired legs or sometimes your shot is just not there. I can understand coaches drawing up bad plays or even poor substitutions, a game or two.

    HOWEVER, what we saw last night is totally inexcusable.....THEY THREW AWAY THAT GAME.

    Coaching;

    1) Ime had some poor lineups - Reed was getting picked on, so why have him in under 5 mins in the 4th Qtr.
    2) Ime letting KD and Sengun bring the ball up the court and making playmaking decisions. This has got to stop!

    Players;

    1) Jabari needs to hit his Freethrows
    2) Tari why are you leaving your man at the 3pt line, when the 2pts is not going to hurt you?
    3) KD stop anticipating where to pass the ball....PASS IT DIRECTLY TO THE PLAYER.
    4) Sengun you need to get in better shape, so you can be more effective down the stretch of games.
    5) Reed its not on you, its the coaches! You're not suppose to be in tight games going down the stretch of games. Other teams are picking on you.

    So, is it the players or the coaches?
     
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    I think you hit the nail on the head in identifying this problem but this highlights a different glaring error in our roster construction, not blame to Ime. Who on this roster do you trust to do this? The answer should be nobody, because we have no players with this skillset.
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    We built this roster with a 90s bully ball + size mindset on purpose. It’s like the reverse MDA/Morey

    we can’t act all surprised when it’s short comings become apparent
     
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    Most of these close losses are on coaching.

    last night it was the players.
     
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    Last night Sengun shot 70% but in the last 2 minutes we ISO’d KD like 5 times.

    I trust Sengun the most out of anybody on the team to create a shot or to find a good pass through contact off the dribble.


    I dont look at last night and see a massive fault for not having a PG, the players we have are fully capable of setting up decent offensive sets and scoring. It was just a compete malfunction to execute.

    It’s entirely on the coaching.

    We had a 1-2 possession lead, and instead of trying to our best ability to score, we purely tried to run out the clock and got horrific shots. This has nothing to do with personnel, it’s the offensive game plan. We didn’t run Sengun / KD / Reed PnRs, we didn’t run Sengun or KD post ups, we didn’t run Amen backdoor cuts. We simply did nothing but let KD hold the ball 5 feet out from the 3PT line until 5 seconds were left on the clock
     
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    You can still have a point guard on a team with this mindset though. And it's hard to fully blame the front office, because we do have that guy on the roster, he's just out for the season. What we're seeing right now is the impact of not trying to replace him in any way.
     
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    It would help but it wouldn’t fix our issues we has th same issues with FVV vs GS
     
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    I guess we're talking about different issues then, because the issues I see would be solved by having a point guard.
     
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    Turnovers would be cut down, but our offense stagnated like crazy in the post season. We just don’t have the discipline to run plays etc
     
  11. WoodDavidWood

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    I don’t know enough about Ime’s stint in Boston, but the year they went to the Finals they were ~.500 at mid season and went on a 2nd half run. And I’m going to guess he spammed Brown and Tatum isos.
     
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    it is the fans who go nuts. An 82-game season is long, and people go nuts after every loss. Jabari missed 1 free throw, unfortunately. He is usually around that 80 percent mark.

    I keep getting told +/- matters and people are killing Jabari for it......................... Yet I see a post about Reed and guess who had the best +/- of +17................Reed.

    People need to stop overreacting to every loss. There will be great wins (@Denver, @Boston) and some losses that are mostly our fault with poor coaching execution late.

    I think our record, despite the overtime losses, is very good because of us being constantly on the road. The next part of the schedule is road-heavy as well.
     
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    LOL.... It's also the fans.....

    Play Reed more.... start Reed... too much Reed..... it's the coaches fault Reed was playing in the 4th quarter.....

    It's honestly both... but definitely more the players as the coaching staff isn't tell them to miss shots, turn the ball over, or make poor decisions.
     
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    This just highlights the problem even more. We lacked ball handlers and competent perimeter creation even before FVV went down.

    The FO built a purposefully minmax’ed roster to take a swing this year without a top 5-10 player. It’s a contrarian approach, which is necessary to win with less talent. When we destroy teams on the offensive glass, we reap the benefit of that imbalance. When we can’t dribble it up, run a PnR, or create a perimeter shot, we pay the cost.

    IMO I would have focused on continued talent accumulation rather than an aged star and a gimmick strategy.
     
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    Right now, I have more faith in Ime than I do the players on the roster. The only issue I have with Ime during his tenure here is advocating to bring KD to the Rockets rather than keeping last year's roster mostly in tact.
     
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    Nah..... We still have a very young, developing core. The FO knows the young core is still developing and created a roster to supplement that.

    If anything, it's been a disappointing Amen has taken a bigger step as an offensive player.
     
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    Lack of coaching and system for success - a way to maximize the strengths and minimize the weaknesses.

    DD
     
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    That's absolutely on Reed. You've been in the NBA long enough to not be the one defender other teams go after.

    Yes, he'll get better and will eventually not be the guy opponents salivate over on defense, but I argue that his position defense should be better after 18 months of NBA-level coaching.
     
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    It is 100% on him, but it appears to be more of a conditioning thing, just like the jazz game he’s 2 steps slower on back to back.


    Regarding the 18 month coaching, definitely not true. This year is the first time he has actually played, I don’t think there has been much coaching or conditioning from player development


    At the end of the day it’s on him, time to wake up kid you made the NBA and there aren’t too many second chances
     
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