No. His walk rate is the worst in the league at 1 every 2 innings pitched. And 1 decent season doesn't quantify for this haul.
I say no. Williams has a great arm, but the results haven’t followed. Maybe he figures things out, but Cleveland knows how to develop pitching. His inability to put it together is a him issue, not a Cleveland developmental program issue.
He won't be worth what he signs for, but I would have no problem bringing Framber back. Pitchers like him don't exactly grow on trees.
I think they’d want meyers and we are obviously with moving him. Take out Matthews? Or Cleveland have to add something?
I think Meyers, Arrighetti, and one of Ullola/Blubaugh/Pecko should be about the max Houston would offer. I could be wrong. The market is kinda crazy right now.
1 stop shopping with Cleveland. Kwan and Williams for Walker, Arrighetti, blubaugh, meyers, Matthews, Ullola, Cole and 20M Sign JV and Caratini. Trade Sanchez. Sign Cavan Biggio or something like that. Diaz, Caratini, Paredes, Altuve, Pena, Correa, Nick Allen, Yordan, Kwan, Smith, Dezenzo, Whitcomb, Biggio. Rotation: Brown, Williams, Javier, JV, Burrows, LMJ (until DFA’d) Waiting in the wings as stop gap guys: Gordon, Costanza, France Mid season replacements: Blanco, Wesneski. 2027 injury: Walter Bullpen: Hader, Abreu, king, Weiss, Pierson, Okert, Sousa something like that. This makes us probably top 5 WS odds in 26 and 27. if you develop you let it go for 28. If not you have the following assets to trade: 1 year of Yordan, Diaz, Hader, and Hunter brown 3 years of cam smith. maybe some Correa years if he ends up good. 2 or 3 years of Williams and Burrow. Thats a pretty good start to a rebuild if you develop some but not enough to be World Series contenders in 2028. Better spot than we were in 2010/2011 anyway.
So yeah- Matthews is your too much. I don’t value him particularly highly (I do all the pitchers though) so that’s the difference.
To me its more about fit. You can't give up both Meyers and Matthews because they are the only CF options who hit RH. It's very likely that Cole may be weak vs LHP in his rookie season. Sanchez is unplayable vs LHP do Cam is needed in RF. I hate to say it but this is where we miss Dubon.
I’d have never gotten rid of Urias. you could play him at 2B and Altuve in Lf a fair amount. Cam is my CF under this scenario. Dezenzo/whitcomb my RF. Or Yordan/kwan/smith when Yordan plays the field. Caratini is my DH on that day. Also 1B insurance. modern Adam Everett is my defensive replacement every day for Altuve.
I liked Urias and thought we should keep him if Dubon was traded, much rather have him on bench than Nick Allen.
Dont let this keep you from getting a stud pitcher. Trade Marrhews if you have too, you can always sign a Tommy Pham type OF for the vet min.
It’s debatable. Both have great track records. All I know is Cleveland knows how to develop pitchers and Williams hasn’t figured things out yet.
3.8 war with a 12-5 record and a 3.05 WAR is success in my world not failure. Yes, he walks a lot of guys. So did LmJ and he was fine as a 2 when he was healthy. If he stops walking tons of guys maybe he’s CY Young.
don’t get me wrong, I’d totally love having him on my team. He is a valuable pitcher with a ton of arm talent. I just wouldn’t give up what you proposed because I’m concerned he hasn’t hit that next level yet despite being in Cleveland’s system. In you tell me that Gavin Williams was available at that price and he has been in the angels or pirates system, then I’m in. Stated differently, if Cleveland is dealing that kind of arm talent, I think I don’t want to pay a big price thinking we can get him to the next level when that org couldn’t.
Although I agree with WH and think the price is close to fair, I can certainly see where you're coming from.
I can't even begin to imagine how bad Cam would look trying to read the spin of the balls going to CF. CF is much harder to play then the corners, not only because of the area to cover but because the spin of hits to center have a higher degree of spin and angles. Most balls to the corners either are lasers at the fielder or towards cf, but the spin is usually towards the lines. That is not the case in CF.
Astros get: SP Freddy Peralta OF Sal Frelick C Jefferson Quero Brewers get: SS Jeremy Pena CF Jake Meyers SP Spencer Arrighetti SP Bryce Mayer Astros get a ToR SP, a ready Top 100 C prospect, and a controllable LHH OF who can leadoff. Brewers get a controllable star SS, a controllable quality everyday CF, a high upside young pitcher plus a good pitching prospect. Astros would have ~$20M under the CBT to be opportunistic for value as the market progresses. Projected roster: LF Frelick 3B Paredes DH Alvarez SS Correa 2B Altuve 1B Walker RF Sanchez C Diaz CF Cole Bench: Matthews, Quero, Allen, Dezenzo SP: Brown, Peralta, Verlander, Javier, Burrows, Weiss RP: Hader, Abreu, King, Pearson, Sousa, Okert, Munoz Optioned: Blubaugh, Gordon, Ullola, Murray, France, Alexander, Salazar, Whitcomb, Smith, TBD, TBD IL: Walter, Wesneski, Blanco DFA: McCullers, Ort, De Los Santos This must not be a realistic trade because I would absolutely love this roster.
