The Rockets knew the downside risk of the leg, and should have handled this in the offseason or when he got off to the good start. Hell, worst case..even while dealing with the oblique. I know Stone deserves some credit for not guaranteeing many years..Thank God he didn't sign.
The injury is very concerning, but dang, they're really missing his defensive presence and energy out there.
It sounds like a challenging medical situation to be certain about. The shin issue was such a unique injury, and that’s really what we are talking about. I’m not a doctor, but I suspect all parties were hoping Tari could play an entire season without any set backs, and that the shin woukd final be fully healed and a non-issue. The fact that he’s still experiencing pain has to be bad news for his longer term health outcomes. No one is trading for Tari if he can’t get back on the floor soon, but I don’t see that as Stone’s fault. Sometimes things just don’t work out. Turns out that the medical was more concerning than many of us thought. They have the info, so I’m glad we didn’t commit big money to him this offseason. Seems like we took the right approach. I’m not sure what Tari’s trade value was anyway absent showing the league he was fully recovered and could play a healthy season.
Nah, we are in win now mode and Tari is better than a low frp or w/e you can get for him. Honestly the bigger mistake is going after DFS instead of NAW. DFS is like an older Tari why did we go for him instead of NAW who is much younger and unarguably the better player? Pretty sure NAW would prefer a contender on the Rox over the Hawks. The other big ass mistake is overpaying for FVV when no contender can offer him more than MLE if at that. We hamstrung ourselves for no reason for this year and next year like why overpay for a dude nobody wanted at that price? Makes zero sense no wonder Tari got in a snit.
Do you not think this here is exactly why we did go after DFS? The Rockets clearly knew Tari was a health concern so found a stand in because one of our most dynamic and potent features as a team is when you get Amen and a partner (Tari/DFS) both at the point of attack just overwhelming an opponent's backcourt with speed and physicality.
"glad we didn’t commit big money to him this offseason" people complaining about FO and all, at least give credit we're not paying people without thinking things through
Two years from now, the surgery will be fully recovered, or he will hurt it again. I guess that the odds are he's either healthy in two years or dealing with a different, unrelated problem. Short term, sure...could be an issue.
Agree on all of this. I suspect what probably happened here is they shut him down entirely for 2-3 weeks to let the oblique heal, and then the ensuing ramp up was a bit too quick/jarring for his leg. In other words, they didn't let him slowly build up the way you can with the (unofficial) mini-camp, then training camp, then the preseason, etc. To me, that's what Ime's comments seem to be hinting at. Of course, the larger takeaway is that we're now in the third season since the initial stress fracture, and it apparently still requires this type of specialized planning and care. Going to be very difficult to give him a significant amount of guaranteed dollars, considering.
Honestly, it’s been handled well. Didn’t commit big guarantees on an extension, and now the greater likelihood is that he re-signs next summer on highly favorable terms. In the long-term, injury issues to good young players during their 3rd and 4th year are associated with major value second contracts (see Steph, JJJ, Trey Murphy, Markkanen). It’s just unfortunate the injury exists at all but that’s just bad luck. Overall we’ve been more lucky than not with injury luck among our drafted players.
Correction - Stone should've already dealt Tari AND Amen. The longer we hold these guys, the less their value will be. The smartest thing the Thunder did was flip Josh Giddey into something actually useful, but I doubt that Stone will have the guts.
Giddey is a really good player, Amen is a great one. You and I don’t seem to be watching the same sport.
Crazy anyone wouldn’t see Amen as a stud. I’ve seen big strides in Amen’s on ball skills this season, but I bet if he went back to the 3 or dunkers’ spot, all of the doubting fans would swallow their tongues. Right now his game is best suited to those positions. He would thrive again. But I haven’t been militantly opposed to giving Amen time early into the season to develop those on-ball skills. The question for me is when do we move him off the ball in the name of sharpening our team to make a big playoff run? I’ve seen flashes of great point guard play, but not enough sustained success to keep Amen running the point permanently; at least not if we are actually trying to win in the playoffs this year.
He was 11-11 before he missed those 2 short shots in the paint. We have some of the dumbest fans ever on this board. We were up 25 with no PG. We beat Denver without a PG. People forget how pitiful our offense was last year with a bottom 5 pg in FVV. Our problem is the head coach doesn’t have a clue how to coach offense or how to handle rotations. It is so obvious to anyone with a brain.
When I heard about Tari Eason needs surgery to remove a part of a bone and replace it with titanium, screws, plate. It really feels like a career ending surgery, he won't be the same after. Tari coming back from surgery is seen limping and in pain. Doesn't trust his leg and plays cautious.
Rumor has it 20 years from now Tari will be fully healthy and we'll all be sad he's not on the Rockets anymore
Josh Giddey is the best player on a sub-.500 team who is also statistically superior to Amen in virtually every category. In less minutes this year than Amen gets, Josh scores more than Amen, rebounds more than Amen, and assists more than Amen with a much higher assist-to-turnover ratio than Amen. It's true that Amen is averaging 1.8 stocks per game to Josh's 1.4, but Amen is also fouling more than Josh by 24%. Amen is the superior defender by reputation, but he made Saddiq Bey look like LeBron James. The most damning thing of all is that Josh has consistently increased his 3pt percentage every year he's been in the league and is now up to 40.5% while Amen has regressed this year down to 18.4%. Did I mention that Josh is only 112 days older than Amen? Amen is by no means a "great" player and is certainly worse than Giddey. They are both capable of putting up empty stats for 1-and-done teams, but neither is untouchable. There is a difference between watching a sport and analyzing it - you are doing one, I am doing the other.
It doesn’t really matter if you watch the games if you are consistently wrong. Amen gets the max as soon as he is eligible.
The reason why stone didn’t trade him was because the return wasn’t gonna be good. Best case scenario: 1st round pick.
