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Adam Silver says, "Sorry, suckers! You can't get your money back!"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by VoR, Dec 17, 2025 at 1:05 AM.

  1. Sooner423

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    That's a crazy amount of bad foul calls against one team.
     
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    Ime is getting fined for speaking the truth.

    I thought America is a free speech country.
     
  3. Rokman

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    It is but the NBA is run by Marxists and they have never made that a secret.
     
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  4. TDRox

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    Reposting this here:

    This is infuriating and outrageously ludicrous. At least make the 2-minute report useful in that you admit your mistake by not punishing the coach or player that pointed out those mistakes. If the refs aren't going to get punished for being wrong, at least don't punish the coach/player for being right. It's like when a player gets a tech for arguing a call and then they review it after a challenge and it gets overturned because the ref was wrong but they don't overturn the tech? That's so moronic, they wouldn't have argued the call if you got the call right in the first place so why not overturn the tech as well? Refs have zero accountability and the fault all lies with the players and coaches. Refs don't get fines, don't have any repercussions whatsoever, where is even the incentive for getting calls right? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Out of the love of being a ref? What a joke. It's the biggest scam in sports.
     
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  5. j@amc

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    I've changed my mind. Tillman should tell the NBA front office--through a press release--that he has instructed Ime not to pay the fine.
     
  6. The Captain

    The Captain ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Just when I was pulled back in, they push me back out.
     
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  7. rockets1995

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    So ridiculous over a slight touch and Tim Hardaway falls down on purpose. Preparing hands to land easily on the floor.

    Look closely at Tims handsin his landing on the floor. He was prepared to land. He is a shooter for a reason, sell a call, get Free Throws.
     
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  8. clutchdabear

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    Yea same here. With KD on the team along with Alpi's emergence... and then with the crackdown early in the season with the arrests of Billups, Rozier, Damon Jones etc., I thought perhaps the NBA learned its lesson and won't blatantly rig or fix outcomes. Boy was I wrong. While I love the Rockets and will always pull for the team, what a sad sad product the current iteration of the NBA is... very difficult to invest too much of my time and money into a trash, superficial product
     
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    my first thought after the bs tripping call was that udoka should have started only 3rd string bench players for the overtime

    1) it was clear DEN was not going to be allowed to lose the game anyways and 2) the entire world sports media would have covered this, finally putting pressure and scrutiny on silver’s shenanigans
     
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  11. BallSoHarden

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    The accessibility of sports betting and prop betting across platforms like Draft Kings has really made things worse, before you'd need to go to Vegas or jump through hoops to bet on an offshore platform, now all you have to do is point to a team or prop when with family members and not say anything else. Even off shore betting is a lot easier now with crypto and not having to trick a bank to letting a deposit go through. Back in the day players would go broke trying to take care of everyone they grew up with financially, now they get to keep their money and help them other ways by giving them inside information (i.e. Lebron injury data being shared before it was made public), or under extreme cases like Rozier and Jontay Porter outright manipulating the game through play.

    The league is likely negotiating terms with the feds on who actually goes down, they can not go after refs because then the whole league loses credibility vs. just blaming one bad apple in a player, unless the player is responsible for significant revenue (Jordan/Ohtani). The Ohtani situation really highlighted this, because you can not lose $40M and not know who the money was coming from. $40M net loss likely means $100s of millions in bets made/cash turnover, Casinos are similar to banks in that they have KYC (know your customer) and AML (anti money laundering) laws, they need to know where the money is coming from, especially when the amounts are that high (multiple forms of identity verification at that level). Ohtani is the face of the league and responsible for international growth, too many things did not add up with his case, and it was somehow resolved in 48 hours lol, meanwhile Rozier and Billups are investigated over the course of 2 years. They gave them something, but they are not going to let them have Jordan or Ohtani and destroy the credibility of the entire league.

    Part of me thinks that Ohtani deferred his earnings in a historic contract not just to avoid CA taxes (13% for his income level), not just to make things easier on the Dodgers, but because he knows he has a gambling problem and doesn't trust himself. $40M to him post tax when he was on his rookie contract is a significant portion of his net worth (50%-80%+ even considering endorsement money at that time), there is no way he had no idea what was going on. He only made $40-50M gross/pre tax from baseball by this time, so $40M net could have been everything he had.

    There have been documentaries touching on the fact that Scott Foster is still employed because he is essentially blackmailing the NBA, he knows what he did w Tim Donaghy, the league let it go on for so long, and now he holds the cards.
     
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  12. VoR

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    Correct. It should be obvious that the ENTIRE landscape of sports has changed since sports betting became legalized. It is mostly becoming unwatchable from college to pro. It is the definition of a snake eating its own tail.
     
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    A couple cliche:
    Deep Throat: "Follow the money"
    Charlie Munger: "Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcomes"

    Yea, the Yao Ming debacle was never acknowledged for fixing games that directly impacted playoff outcomes. Plus with recent players getting busted for gambling, it seems inevitable. The NBA, at worst, is complicit, if not a direct beneficiary.

    Major League sports is a marketing engine.
     
  14. Rockets4Life13

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    Canceled my league pass subscription right after that denver game. I‘m not paying to watch WWE like basketball where narratives are more important than the sport itself and the name on your jersey decides whether there was a foul or not.
    It feels pointless
     
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    Morey used to say the NBA is a star driven league, and you need stars to win. Well it’s apparent that the NBA is honed in on institutional teams/players. Everyone knows the Lakers, Steph Curry, Joker, Spurs, etc. generate the eyeballs around the world.

    If a team not in the “A” list of favorites to generate revenue and business, even attempting to win the title; then they have to annihilate their competition. Because if it’s within reach, the NBA always seems to reel in their prize fish…
     
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    Anyone who bets on sports is a sucker. Your just saying, "reach into my wallet and take it all!"
     
  17. Rokman

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    If the "reptilian shape shifting people are running the earth" theory ever got proven to be true, the first person I would look at would be Adam Silver. Dude looks like a giant, gay, vampire in bat form. He gives me the creeps.
     
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  18. Rokman

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    Tilman should go to the Feds and sing like a canary. Blow the league the F up!
     
  19. Rokman

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    That's called fanaticism recovery. You are on the right path.
     
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    What is the point of the L2M report? Refs are clearly fixing games and it doesn't really seem to matter.

    I wonder if the reason the refs upheld the Amen "foul" was either because they didn't know the rule of what would happen after it getting overturned. Or they were afraid that the Nuggets would have to foul the Rockets on a change of possession making the Rockets go up by 3, thus getting them the over which was Rockets -1.5.
     
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