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Windhorst: Rockets still looking at Giannis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rvo384, Jun 30, 2025.

  1. thegary

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    dude, i hate the mavs but this is idiotic and if anything it's an indictment on how shitty the rocket fanbase is. are you f'ing serious, lol
     
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    Even during the Harden years the attendance was awful
     
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  3. thegary

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    that's my point. he's calling loyal fans idiots. he a fairweather douchety doo amirite
     
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  4. ksny15

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    Yeah it’s unfortunate that a lot of people here probably don’t live in Houston so can’t attend the games. It’s so embarrassing having empty seats during a playoff game.
     
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    If Derek Stingley was a great corner, wouldn't you expect more interceptions?
     
  6. astrosrule

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    I don't get the joke here?
     
  7. Tuckmose

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    If the Rockets traded Alperen Sengun and Amen Thompson to the Lakers right now for Deandre Ayton and a 41 year old LeBron James I would never support the team again. That is beyond inexcusable and worse than when Bud Adams demolished the Oilers right before moving the team.
     
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  8. Landry's Tooth

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    Pointing out you can simply avoid attacking him and pick on lesser teammates.

    Thought that was obvious.

    At any rate, this is boring and way out of proportional response for a passing thought...
     
  9. astrosrule

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    Not sure what that has to do with a basketball player but ok. If you look at any elite defensive player in basketball (think wemby, rudy, amen, caruso, etc.) their team will be much better on defense when that player is in the game. The hawks defense is better when daniels is NOT in the game. You don’t think that’s a signal that maybe he’s not very good on defense?
     
  10. SeldomSeenInLife

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    yes, and we have Sengun locked in for another 3 years plus a player option for year 5 on a team friendly contract. If he continues to expand his game, they'll renegotiate it before the player option can hit and pay that man. Is there any team outside Milwaukee that wants to supermax a 32 year old Giannis next year?
     
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  11. SeldomSeenInLife

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    From the Bucks perspective, they've already won no matter what happens here. They got a title out of their superstar, and they've been a very relevant team for the past 6 years. Rockets spent the same amount of effort building a team for Harden and had the misfortune of GSW peak years and Chris Paul's hamstring. At least they were able to trade Harden for a bunch of assets when he decided he was done here.

    Milwaukee is in a situation where they're looking for a sucker GM that has a lot of good draft picks to offer for Giannis, and I don't think there are many of those around right now with Nico fired in Dallas. They need to blow up their team and suck for a few years, but they've given up too many picks and swaps to do that if they can't bring in a haul of potential top 5 lottery picks in return for offloading Giannis.
     
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    Most of them? I think the hiccup will be Giannis's contract doesn't make him as appealling as the Bucks and National media thinks. I don't see the Bucks getting a KD to Phoenix like haul.

    From what I've seen speculated, I don't see Houston or SA as interested in what is expected to be the cost for Giannis. I do think that SA and Houston may get involved if another team doesn't do something stupid.
     
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    I initially thought the Spurs might be interested, but Castle looks too good recently and I wouldn’t give up Dylan Harper

    might as well just roll with the young core

    Hawks, Knicks, and Raptors are the teams I see trying to make a move
     
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    Trade DeAaron Fox?
     
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    Knixies would not be smart to break up that band for a new lead singer. Who is hurt.
     
  17. Joe Joe

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    Hawks and Raptors make sense to me. They can get salaries to match pretty easily without hurting depth and have picks. Knicks, I'm not sure how they would do it without wrecking their team...even then, probably get outbid. I think Orlando could do it if they were willing to trade Wagner or Paolo.
     
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    Nerdy note:

    In general guard cannot impact the overall defense as much as taller guys so you judge them by what they can control. You put an elite rim protector anywhere, that entire defense will improve. You put an elite defensive player with 4 bad defenders and immediately you get articles talking about how his defensive numbers have fallen off. It's a common problem with the defensive numbers.

    Just visualize the court for a second. You're guarding your man really well (you're Dyson Daniels), so your assignment passes the ball to the guy being guarded by Cam Whitmore > what are you going to do to stop this now? You can't leave your man. That guy is going to beat Cam and get to the basket. The guy who can affect everything here is Sarr. Daniels could have done his job to an elite level such that if he were on a good defensive team, the defense would benefit from it. However in the Wizards scenario, teams are just going to avoid whoever he's guarding because there are so many better options. His volume of involvement and ability to deter team points is shot.

    OTOH you can surround Gobert with 4 Cam Whitmores and he can affect pretty much every single play no matter where they're attacking him from.

    That's why bigger players are more linked to team defense. It's not cause they're better. It's simply cause the metrics and stats have not yet developed enough to capture this difference.
     
  19. astrosrule

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    Why is he the only “elite” perimeter guy who doesn’t help his teams defense then? You would never see okc be worse with caruso or rockets with amen. Daniels gets steals but is a poor as an on ball guy, he’s kinda like reed.
     
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    In a world where the salary cap isn't real, sure. But Milwaukee has gone all in on putting teams around Giannis catered to him and they've still been bounced in the first round several years in a row now. Why supermax him when he can't even lead his team out of the first round in the not so stacked east?
     
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