More like OKC losing Kevin Durant, disaster in Media coverage and not knowing which is a Star for a long time. Russell Westbrook, Carmelo Anthony, Paul George none of them helped the team. Trading Paul George for SGA and Picks, Jaylen Williams drafted with that pick was a Dynasty Trade.
Not apples to apples but the Rockets almost got rid of Olajuwon. Olajuwon won his first championship at 31.
No but there are a couple of huge differences Judge isn’t limited to being basically a DH But the much bigger difference is the Yankees don’t have payroll restrictions keeping them from adding what they need through free agency We do. Sorry but the two situations are WAY different
If you trade him for an older player who is even more injury prone, then I would agree For the record, I do not think the Astros should trade him for an older more injury prone player
You still don’t trade one of the best hitters in the game while he is in his 20s, unless you are doing a full on rebuild. And I was initially responding to the poster saying that Yordan was no longer a generational producer and saying that his best years were behind him due to his recent stretch of missing games. That is why I brought up Judge, and it is a valid comparison. You seem to be talking about wanting to trade Yordan to improve the team, regardless of his performance, which is a different conversation.
What have the Yankees accomplished with Judge? I don’t think anyone is disputing Alvarez’s greatness, just whether trading him would make the team better either immediately or in the future. The Astros, unlike the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, can’t simply re-load by buying the best athletes, we have to make trades and absolutely need some element of growing our own as long as we have a cost conscious (not cheap) owner. There are a lot of factors that would be going into a decision like this: 1. How do we get the ToR pitchers we need to compete in 26? 2. Are we punting on 26 and making moves to prepare for 27 or 28? 3. How does the apparent lockout affect our thinking? 4. What kind of return can you get for one of your stars, be it Alvarez, Pena, or Paredes? 5. How does the FO rate the readiness of our top prospects? 6. How does the FO feel about Alvarez’s potential to stay on the field or Paredes ability to play 2b or OF? I don’t believe that there is any player that should be untouchable under the right circumstances.
As a thought experiment ... If we could find and trade for Hunter Brown 2.0, how much of the top farm prospects would have to be included? Other side of the same coin, if another team approached the Astros about a Hunter Brown trade, what would be our ask? Also, who had Hunter Brown getting CY votes in 2025 on their bingo card?
The Yankees have made it to several ALCS’s and a World Series with Judge. And if they haven’t won a World Series it almost assuredly isn’t because they kept Aaron Judge, but because they haven’t done a great job filling out the rest of the roster. And once again, I was responding to someone basically saying that Yordan’s best years were clearly behind him due to his recent injury stretch, and I was comparing that stretch to Judge. If you want to trade Yordan because you think that it will improve the team, I still think you’re most likely wrong, but that wasn’t the point of my initial post. If you think we should trade Yordan because his best years are behind him, I would once again point to Aaron Judge as a counter argument.
The Astros where a game away from the play offs last season without Yordan and lost that game with him.
Seems like another overpay like Yaz. Prices are high. Maybe teams are willing to overpay on 2 year deals to incentive more players to make a deal on the CBA. Polanco will be highly motivated to make sure there’s a full season in 2027.
I have no idea if Yordan's best years are behind him or not. The Astros did fine without him last season while dealing with multiple injuries. I believe putting all your eggs in one basket is a bad practice in the long run even if looks good once or twice. Trading Alvarez for multiple players spreads out the risks of an injury or a bad season from a single player. A well balanced team may lose to a team built around one great hitter once or twice but in the long run the well balanced team will win out.
Our team played way over their heads with the bullpen carrying them for most of it. Trading Yordan won't net am SP1 or SP2 but most likely future potential prospects. Bottom line, they didn't make the playoffs last year and won't do it again this year if he's gone (even if only by 1 game). I'm okay with that if they get a good future return as it appears they aren't adding much to their roster anyhow. They walk this team back with patches they aren't doing anything anyway.
Looks like yall's dreams of trading Walker to the Mets are over. Mets are signing Jorge Polanco for 2yr/40m to play 1B and DH
Looking more like the Astros got a deal for Walker. I'm okay with keeping him if it meant having to overpay to get rid of him, at least one more year.
I am more and more leaning toward using Paredes as the trade piece to improve this roster. The team simply must improve and can't afford to continue weakening the farm. He is actually wanted and has much more value than Walker With Altuve playing more 2B, defense at 1B will be more important. Walker, Altuve, Correa, and Yordan are all signed for 2027 as well as 2026, so he will not have a regular starting position next year either. If the Astros can improve the roster by trading a guy who projects to be a bench bat and insurance in case of injury they need to do it. It sucks that he is a true baller and one of the few guys on this team who puts together long solid ABs regularly. He isn't starting over Altuve He isn't starting over Correa He isn't starting over Yordan At best he is taking 1/2 of Walker's starts. This team does not have the luxury of or depth of talent on the roster to hold on to him.
What makes you think Altuve is going to play more 2nd base. He has proven incapable there already and is only likely to get worse.
You guys keep saying "overpay". The market is the market. Prices and salaries do go up every year (as they should). While legacy media deals aren't being re-negotiated, MLB's online revenue continues to track upwards. Streaming deals being cut are only furthering the revenue generation. Attendance/ticket sales are approaching the NFL model in terms of overall 'importance' in any team's true financial health. Franchise values also continue to go up regardless of the 'health'. If you really think these owners are hurting financially or losing money, I don't know what to tell you. If teams aren't spending its simply because they're looking to pocket even more revenue.
He's their best everyday hitter that has a chance of actually staying healthy, and is club controlled for another 2 years.... for a lineup that was pretty bad. If they think he's going to have more soft tissue type injuries with regularity then I guess they're going to sell 'high', but this team has more needs than holes they can fill when robbing Peter to pay Paul.
