Lets take all the supporting cast out of it since apparently none of that matters unless it fits your narrative. Drake Maye: .75 great season, 1 terrible season CJ Stroud: .75 average season, 1 amazing season, one bad season (still much better than Maye's bad season). Drakes bad season: 15 TDs 10INTs (3%INT) 88 rating, 66% cmp, 175 yards a game, 9.14 sack %, 2,276 yards. Strouds bad season: 20 TDs 12 INT (2.3%INT) 87 rating, 63% cmp, 219 yards a game, 8.9 sack %, 3727 yards. Drakes great season: 23 TDs 6INTs (1.6%INT) 111 rating, 71% cmp, 262 yards a game, 9.39 sack %, 3412 yards so far (4 games left) Strouds amazing season: 23 TDs 5 INT (1% INT) 100 rating 64% cmp, 274 yards a game, 7.1 sack %, 4108 yards (missed 2 games) Is Drake Maye playing better than Stroud RIGHT NOW, sure. But that can be said for lots of QBs in any given year. Don't come at this chart talking about OLine leading to sack percentage, OC calling bad plays, First year jitters, strength of schedule, supporting cast, or any of that, because most of you only comment and cherry pick that when it benefits you. Fact is, when at his best, CJ was playing better than Maye, when at his worst, Maye was playing worse than CJ. I'll take the higher floor, higher ceiling guy every day of the week and twice on sundays. Some of yall just need to be right and this won't change anything, but knocking your team QB just to prop up a guy you liked coming out of college is weird to me. Propping up your own team's QB even when it might not be 10000% perfectly accurate is called fan bias and its way less weird.
CJ needs to be better; we all agree on that. However, CJ has made plenty of amazing plays too. I think CJ is going to step up just like he stepped up and made some incredible passes against K.C.
Strouds great season was nowhere near Mayes season this year. Let’s be honest. Literally nothing you posted is accurate.
Strouds “bad” season was his second year. Mayes “bad” season as a rookie was still better than Strouds second season per game. Maye had a better passer rating, better on target percentage, better bad throw percentage and similar production in 13 games with an absolute garbage supporting cast (CJ still has a better supporting cast). Comparing CJs rookie season to Mayes 2nd season. Both of their “great” seasons. Maye clears by literally every metric, standard and advanced. Very easy to say “schedule” but the advanced metrics factor them into their rankings. Which still has Maye as a top 3 guy. Elite accuracy at all levels and the best deep ball passer in the game right now. And that’s not factoring in how much better Maye is as an athlete. He gives the Pats a dimension that CJ can’t do. RIGHT NOW, there is no comparison. Maye is the much better QB. If CJ gets back to his rookie level play and progresses from that point, then there’s a legitimate conversation. As a Texans fan, I hope that’s the case. That doesn’t mean we can’t be honest
I literally just posted verbatim statistics from a stats website and you say “nothing is accurate” what a ridiculous level of arguing you have. You brought up schedule, which year if was and all the other stuff which I said don’t because it’s cherry picked for your narrative. Go ahead and add random stats that don’t even make the main stat columns as you claw at ways to be right. All the time. It’s exhausting. I even agreed Maye was better right now. You’re helpless to argue with, you’d think you would learn something after being so painfully wrong so many times. No wonder you desperately cling to any shred of being right that you have.
Bahahaha you can’t even help yourself, you have to bring up supporting cast and schedules and which year of the career it is. Anything to be right. Somehow stroud being his rookie season is meaningless compared to it being mate’s second season makes it more important? And yet mate’s bad season being his rookie season is really important to let it go because it’s his rookie season! Do you even hear yourself? Stroud had arguably the greatest rookie season of all time and you’re diminishing it for a kid who hasn’t played literally played the easiest schedule in the NFL. Don’t say “as a Texans fan” you aren’t one. You’re a self fan, and if the Texans are doing something that makes you right, then great, but if you want to be right about any other players, you have to trash the Texans players to make it so. Go hang in an NFL forum dude..
Because you aren’t being accurate. There is nothing between those seasons where CJ played better. You’re not being truthful. Rating, completion percentage, YPA, on target, bad throw, QBR and literally every advanced metric. It has nothing to do with being right, it’s about being truthful. In fact, it seems like you want so bad to be right that you flat out lie. Do better
You’re making stuff up now. No one said CJ rookie season doesn’t matter, in fact it’s the standard he’s being held to. Stop being so sensitive about your boy. You can tell you aren’t a Texans fan, you’re a CJ fanboy. The irony saying I’m not a fan when I’ve been here a lot longer than you little guy. Keep being a player only fan, it fits you
I'm just repeating what Ryans said and you dont like it much because it doesn't fit your narrative. Truth is you cant be objective even if the HC says the same thing I said. This conversation is going nowhere, so I'll let you have the last word.
He is still more accurate. He throws one of the most beautiful deep balls you'll ever see, I dont care about how easy the Pats schedule is. He doesn't throw the Schaubian deep ball CJ threw to Nico last Sunday night.
His level of play post week 3 has been 250 yards. 3-1 INT ratio in that time. It’s been pretty similar play. Better competition.
I fought the fight for a long time. The ignore button makes this thread much better. You said it perfectly. It’s absolutely bizarre that after we had to deal with the Levis talk. We now have to deal with the new white QB he has chosen. Understand this… it’s a little weird the other team QB fetish didn’t find its way to Jayden Daniels who had a hell of season. It skipped and went to Maye I
Of course, always comes down to race. Low IQ individuals always have to bring it up. Never mind that Levis was never my first choice- Bryce was. But expecting anyone with room temp IQ to be intellectually honest is a hard ask. It’s not us with a fetish. It’s you CJ only fans that keep trying to compare him to the top QBs in the game. He hasn’t been that in two seasons. You can scratch and claw to try and find some small glimpse of a stat that says it, it’s just not there. He hasn’t been a top 10 guy since his rookie year and that burns you only fans up. Watch Tmac in game chats, he will jump through hoops to defend CJ and the blame literally every other player for the slightest mistake. Definition of only fan
The only fans say 3-1 after week 3. But the last 5 games it’s been 1-1 ratio. One quarter against Tennessee and the game against the worst defense in the league in Baltimore at the time is all the only fans have
