So which is it, did you not watch the game at all, or do you simply not know what you are seeing when you watch. That's the only possible options for someone deadass suggesting the Chiefs weren't blitzing their ass off against the Texans. The Chiefs blitz at one of the highest rates in the entire league, and they doubled down on that on Sunday. Typically the Chiefs blitz is one of the least effective, giving up the most yards per blitz, getting the fewest sacks per blitz, and one of the lowest pressure rates per blitz....but when you're going against Stroud, all of that changes. Factor in that they were playing without their top DB and it makes the performance even more absurd.
Lol. Yea, it's Stroud's fault that the offensive line is an abortion. You guys can take it from here.
It's Stroud's fault that he couldn't hit wide open receivers, it's Stroud's fault that he couldn't see the blitz coming and adjust plays to beat the blitz like basically every team has done against the Chiefs all season....even when they had their top DB healthy. Sorry killer, those thins are your guy's fault.
There needs to be at least one option quickly over the middle on every play. CJ was carving them up in Indy with that. Then we reverted back to deep balls and runs up the middle.
CJ has the ability to change any play and give him that option. He has complete control over the offense. Perhaps we should ask why he's not choosing to do that.
He's only got 6 seconds to do so? I dunno, CJ has definitely made some mistakes and seems to have lost some of that ball placement from year one. But I also think some of that can be attributed to getting happy feet after being sacked 100 times the last 2 seasons and the inexperienced playcalling. There is fault on both sides, but I think better OL and playcalling does more to help CJ and this offense than a better QB with same OL and playcalling does... and thats how I'm deciding where to lay the most blame.
It’s honestly ridiculous that a professional OC can’t see this. I do wonder if CJ is supposed to audible or has the ability to. Either way, the OC is committing malpractice
No one said it was easy to be a QB, he's either up to the task, or he's not. I'm sure he wants to get paid as if he's up to the task, so he needs to perform.
As someone who was one of the biggest CJ advocates (on this board), I’m slightly disappointed. I wasn’t expecting much the first two seasons but this season I thought he’d be able to pop into the Top 5-8 talk without debate. Year 3, we shouldn’t be still talking about flashes. He should be a lot more comfortable than what he currently is. He should be able to read defenses better than what he has. He should be able to make audibles. He should be able to call protections. Looking back at QBs around the league, they normally pop in Year 3. Yes, everyone isn’t the same but he’s been the starter since day 1. I understand he’s on his second OC. I understand the Oline hasn’t been great. But we’ve seen a ton of overthrows & I’m not just talking about the 10 yard out throws. He’s missing guys that look like they should be scoring of he just gives them a chance. Ala Hutchinson & Kirk Sunday and Tank vs Detroit last season. Also, unnecessary sacks that take us out of field goal range. This doesn’t mean I’m for getting rid of CJ. I still think he can be good….but don’t think he’ll be very good. I have started to think he’ll never be a Top 5 type of QB. If we somehow fix the oline to give him protection, this very well could change but we’ve also seen the best QBs do very well without the best oline.
I don’t think this is unreasonable. If CJ can gain any type of consistency I think he can be a 5-12 level QB. With the right team around him we can win
The can't read defenses is bogus. Of his 6 ints, 2 have been bad throws. The first Jaguars and the Colts game. 1 was a Cobee welcome to the NFL on Higgins. He has done that to pro bowl receivers this year, Cobee has. Two more were a free lane to the qb's arm, bad things happen getting hit. Think about this way. When Opposing qbs play this defense, they play hurried and with mistakes, including 6 year vets that some here swear on but can't win in the post season. That's what our offensive line makes opposes defenses (when they don't have their best players on the IR) look like. The stats don't lie. I've already listed some of those other qbs who have had similar numbers in their late mid 20s. So I can't really take those poster saying Stroud doesn't have 'it: seriously. Going into the offseason my critique was and you can check it, 30 pages ago "Spend time with Dak and Tua and become a master at spamming the 1 yard pass and throwing the ball away." He's gotten so much better at it. The throwing it away is still a work in progress. My critiques for this year will be, learn to throw the ball away, slide like a pro and stop hanging around with Bari and Alpi, you know. Being comfortable with the Offense will come.
Year 3 in the league; game 10 in this offense. Those things are not the same. I certainly don't expect an exhaustive list - but did it not register with you that you referenced two throws from Sunday night, and then had to go back more than a year to find another egregious overthrow?... I've listed this stat before but here is the list of QBs that miss wide open WRs: ALL OF THEM. Also, we all have to collectively agree to stop conveniently racing by: inexperienced offensive coordinator; brand new system; substandard offensive line (they have traded, released or benched 3/5 of their opening day OL.... SIXTY PERCENT!); losing Diggs, Dell and Mixon and replacing them all with inferior players; Stroud missing 3.5 games with a concussion. Those aren't things we just sweep aside so we can b**** about a single overthrow from more than a year ago. They are significant factors. If the Texans' OL was merely "not the best oline," we'd likely be seeing significantly different results. They are a terrible OL and no, we don't often see QBs excel when they're are running for their lives.
I can only imagine the pissing and moaning in here from the galactically stupid if CJ hadn't just outplayed (by a massive margin) MVP and Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes Sunday night.
Per EPA he’s ranked 6th in the NFL. Has played a ridiculously hard schedule. His advanced stats rival his rookie year where people were saying he was top 3. His WR2 is a rookie 2nd round pick and 3rd target via target share was considered a bottom tier TE in 2024. Does it really matter what arm chair analyst and Twitter bots really think? Where is Jayden Daniels this year after playing a first place schedule? Hasn’t looked as good has it. He just got done outplaying Mahomes who has a HOF TE(advanced stats rival his prime stats), a WR1 in Rashee Rice and has 3 other guys who are 4.2-4.3 40 guys. He outplayed him despite a 54% pressure rate. CJ doesn’t have an elite O Line like Josh Allen or Bo Nix. CJ doesn’t have a running game like Lamar Jackson. He doesn’t have the best offensive play caller in this era ala Andy Reid. He isn’t playing a schedule full of 25-32 ranked defenses like some of these other guys. CJ has his flaws. He is missing open receivers at times. His tape is still excellent. Clint Steorner on 610(former NFL QB) has been hard on him this year. Was RAVING about his tape after watching it against the Chiefs. Stroud is a really good QB. He isn’t perfect. You can win a Super Bowl with him despite what I feel is a ton of supporting cast short comings.
When I said reading defenses, I was more referring to blitzes. Hence why I said it around the audible sentence. I think he has a big problem with that. I think I said it in my head instead of typing it out.
