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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    The injured shitty rockets didn't have

    Sengun
    Eason
    DFS
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    Atw welcome back bro you've been missed.
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    He's won 3 out of the last 4 MVP awards, so explain to me how he's being racially discriminated against?
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Hmmm...interesting if true!
     
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    Blow it up, Patrick!
     
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    If Scola didn't play the rockets lost.

    If Sengun doesn't play the rockets win.
     
  8. RHU525

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    lol did you watch the game. We got soo lucky they had open shot after open shot and just missed,
     
  9. RHU525

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    I hate peoples that use this defensive era argument. It’s like they didn’t watch basketball in the 90s. They played a such a slow pace and didn’t shoot threes so the scores were just lower. The defense was absolutely not better at all, go watch those games. Dudes just left wide open. Difference was back then they would just brick wide open long twos instead making threes. It’s not the defense getting worse it’s players offensive skill level getting better. How do you guard step back threes? It’s literally impossible. What 80s defender is stopping that. Terrible logic. Jordan already shot more in his era than anyone is right now. For Jordan to score 45 he’d have to 1. Develops a three point shot. 2. Shoot at least 35 plus times a game. No one is doing that and winning. It’s a team game if he doesn’t pass he’d get lapped. Because his inefficient mid range isn’t going to hold up against the three point barrage. Coaches aren’t dumb either if he gets to a certain amount they would just trap him like every other star. Could he score 70 in 1 game maybe but to say he’d average 45 is the dumbest statement of all time. Jokic is having the most efficient season the league has ever seen Jordan’s offense would get smoked.
     
  10. Hemingway

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    I largely agree with this. The rules have also been re-defined to encourage more offense. I love basketball from both eras and both offense and defense have evolved with the rules and just like all the sports, the insane athleticism from evolution, sports medicine, and advanced training methods.
     
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    And spacing. The 90s just looks like better d cus everyone just packed the paint and it was so congested hard to score. Offenses figured out by spacing the floor it’s easier to score. Now instead of guarding a small area you have to guard the entire half of the court. Obviously that is harder to do. Put the players today back with 90s rules their defense would be way better. We are watching the greatest defender the league has ever seen in Wemby and yet it still doesn’t matter. Cuz his team gives up over 109 a game.
     
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    Both defense and offense have gotten significantly better over the years, which is just the natural course of things. And that enables players to score more. You can see it more easily with role players. Somebody like Tate or holiday would have much bigger roles 20 years ago.

    It doesn’t put down any of the pst players, it would be weird if players of today weren’t better than players from 20 years ago.
     
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    So literally not Scola?

    DD
     
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    Trade for Giannis confirmed
     
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    In the 1992-93 season Jordan averaged 32.6 ppg on 25.7 shots per game and 2.9 3s along with only 7.3 FT attempts. In today's game, his 3 point shots would easily double and his FT attempts would go up another 3-4 a game on average, but he was so efficient at scoring that his ppg wouldn't necessarily rise that much (only 2 or so at most). So we're talking around 34-35 ppg at best in a normal championship level season.

    I agree, to score 45 he'd have to sacrifice his entire team, take 30+ a game, make almost half his 3s and play 40 mpg.
     
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    Except he was a terrible three point shooter. So what would his game even look like if he had to shoot threes instead of mid range? Would he even be the same player? He was only efficient for his era. But in today’s game his most efficient season ever was TS% of 61.4%. That would rank him number 55 in today’s nba tied with Benedict Matburin. For his career he was at 56% which would rank in the 130s in today’s nba. What we are seeing from Jokic is other worldly. Teams would let Jordan shoot and score cuz it wouldn’t even matter. Jordan’s team would
    Get blown out if he stayed the type of player he was.

    To put this in perspective his best shooting season ever is worse than KD this year who is having his worst shooting season ever….
     
  17. Castian Crew

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    If your arguement is that Jordan wouldn't be able to score 30 ppg and win a ring in today's game then I think you forget how adaptive he really was. In today's game he would've worked on his 3 pt shooting until he was well efficient at it. But again, it wouldn't increase his ppg much more than he already scored.

    If Jordan went through a time portal in 1993 and started playing in today's game then I'd agree that his scoring may lead to less team wins the way he played (more offensive fouls called against him and help defense in the paint), but I also believe if you took Jokic out of today's NBA and placed him in in 1993 that he'd be banged around a ton more, which literally wears down on your body over a full season.

    Players adapt to their era and primarily learn at a young age how to prepare for it. Players like Jordan and Jokic redefined their era for the next generation so both would adapt quit well in any league.
     
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    My argument was if he worked on his three more would he be as deadly in mid range? We can’t just assume he’d be the same player if he completely changed the way he played. Jokic could bang in any Era. Dude looks like he wants the smoke. His family is probably mafia.

    Wojld Jokic even need to bang? They would let him shoot and he would kill them. That was 90s defense let them shoot.
     
  19. Castian Crew

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    Got it, so you perceive Jokic as having no flaws in any era but Jordan does. All I needed to hear.
     
  20. Easy

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    Literally
     
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