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[Official] Astros Offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 29, 2025.

  1. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    I don’t mind thinking that Javier could be good, but there is nothing from last season that suggests McCullers should even have a roster spot.
     
  2. IdStrosfan

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    I am

    At least when considering SP

    We are also a catcher, LH bat that can play vs both RH and LH pitching and play in the OF and maybe a RH leverage reliever away

    I think Hunter is a legitimate #1

    Cristian or Arrighetti will pitch back into a #3 and the other a #4.

    Between Weiss, Alexander, Gordon, McCullers, Ullola, and Blubaugh 2 of them can be #5 and #6 with the others covering innings due to injury.

    I am also hopeful (but not expecting) Wesneski and/or Blanco can return by August.
     
  3. Redfish81

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    I'm back in the hospital and I blame the depressing suckfest of an offseason the Astros have had thus far for putting me here.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    If you go slot in the pitchers on a list of where they’d fit on a normalized contending pitching staff 1-13 it might look like this:

    1. (Ace) Brown
    2. (Ace) ?
    3. (Playoff SP) ?
    4. (MoR SP) Javier
    5-6. (BoR SP) Arrighetti, Blubaugh, Weiss, Ullola
    7-8. (Closer) Hader, Abreu
    9-10. (Leverage RP) Okert, Sousa, King,
    11-13+. (Long/middle relief/optionable arm) Alexander, France, De Los Santos, Gordon, Murray, McCullers, Pearson, Ort, VanWey

    So if Houston adds a #2 and then somebody from that BoR group makes a jump up a tier, they’ll be good.
     
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  6. Snake Diggit

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    More evidence Houston plans to select a catcher in the Rule 5 draft. It’ll be a luxury having Trammell in AAA.
     
    #1466 Snake Diggit, Dec 5, 2025 at 4:42 PM
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  7. Nook

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    Space out means that he didn’t cheat on the same way every game in an effort to avoid detection.

    Cancer causing substance is tongue in cheek, they use everything from oven cleaner to corn syrup.

    That is baseball though - and why the Astros situation bothered me so much. The game isn’t golf, it has been from day one a game of cheaters and gamblers. The league knowingly looks the other way until it cannot anymore, and unless it is backed in a corner it gives a slap on the wrist. In the Astros situation it was Fiers, coupled with MLB’s inability to control its media - and players on other teams speaking up.

    The Astros got shafted- so did the early steroid guys.
     
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  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Hey, if it works, it works
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    #1469 Buck Turgidson, Dec 5, 2025 at 7:15 PM
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  10. Radricky

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  11. IdStrosfan

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    New theory.

    Astros trade away $10+M in salary.

    Astros bring in a young pre-arb SP they think can compete with others on the roster for the #2 spot.

    Astros include Arrighetti in a deal ( Donovan?)

    Jim Crane signs Verlander to fill Arrighetti's spot.
     
  12. Nook

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    They have a LOT of possible scenarios mapped out and a situation like you outlined is one of the better outcomes. They are really hoping to get a scenario like Tampa where they get a #2 starter and a bat, and then would go FA for another starter.

    Right now Tampa, Minnesota and Rangers are claiming they aren’t moving rotation pieces to try and drive up the market.
     
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  13. Snake Diggit

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    This is just what I was thinking, except Wilyer Abreu instead of Donovan, ending up with a roster that looks like:

    SS Pena
    DH Paredes
    LF Alvarez
    3B Correa
    RF Abreu
    2B Altuve
    1B Walker
    CF Cole
    C Diaz
    Bench: Matthews, Susac, Allen, Melton
    SP: Brown, Ragans, Verlander, Javier, Weiss, McCullers
    RP: Hader, Abreu, King, Pearson, Sousa, Okert, De Los Santos

    Optioned: Gordon, Blubaugh, Ullola, Murray, Alexander, France, Dezenzo, Salazar, Whitcomb, TBD, TBD
    IL: Wesneski, Blanco, Walter

    I really, really like that roster, especially considering they’d likely still have at least 4 good SP ready in AAA and would retain all their draft picks. The moves would be:

    Jake Meyers and Cam Smith for Cole Ragans
    Spencer Arrighetti for Wilyer Abreu
    Sign Justin Verlander
    Jesus Sanchez for 2 optionable depth arms
    Draft Daniel Susac in the Rule 5.
    DFA Kaleb Ort
     
    #1473 Snake Diggit, Dec 5, 2025 at 9:05 PM
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  14. BlindHog

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    Signing Suarez is destroying the org? Or is Suarez giving you your best chance to win another championship with a slightly aging core?
     
  16. punkoholic

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    It is 38 but perhaps Buck had the pending Weiss signing as player number 39.
     
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  17. Buck Turgidson

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    Yes.
     
  18. raining threes

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    Move Walker and eat 10 mil then trade for one of Donovan//Abreu/Duran.
     
  19. raining threes

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    Locked on Astros said this, not me. But I could see a trade that looks like this,

    Meyers/Hicks for Ragans. Given Ragans injury history this would be a fair trade IMHO.

    Are you a hold onto prospects at all costs kinda guy?
     
  20. raining threes

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    Add Suarez/Ragans and trade for a cheap bat like Donovan.

    Do these moves make you think that the Stros could compete for a title, particularly if Alvarez stays relatively healthy?
     

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