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[Reminder] The Masked Oppressors are the Cowards - That's Why They Wear Masks!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jun 10, 2025.

  1. adoo

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/california-legislature-bill-law-enforcement-face-coverings/

    In Sep 2025 , Calif Gov Newsom signed into law Senate Bill 627, known as the No Secret Police Act,
    banning most local and federal law enforcement officers from covering their faces during operations,
    including immigration enforcement.

    in Nov 2025, Trump admin sues to block California’s ICE mask ban

    Trump 2.0's lawyer Pam Bondi said the California law “discriminates against the federal government
    and are designed to create risk for our agents.”

    on 3 Dec 2025,
     
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  2. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet
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    Did I say she was here illegally? I did not. My only point is that saying you are a citizen doesn't make it so. I have no idea why they stopped her. Maybe they had a tip that she was an illegal alien. Maybe they had a tip about the car she was driving. Maybe there is another person with the same name and similar appearance that is an illegal alien. The standard for detention is different than the standard for deportation is different than the standard for search is different than the standard for conviction. I would guess she was released because they completed their investigation and determined it was appropriate to release her.
    I would say that I don't have enough information about any of the cases to know if they are acting within the law or not. I do know that the media is absolutely capable of presenting a narrative that obfuscates the truth.

    Edit: Woman in medical scrubs says she’s US citizen while being dragged from car

    It turns out she was driving her boyfriend's car, he is an illegal alien, and she refused to identify herself. She was then released when they confirmed her identity. It seems what they did was in fact within the bounds of the law.
     
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  3. astros123

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    LOL give me a break. You naively blindly believe whatever garbage they feed. Theyve been caught lying more times than they've been honest. They shot a female in Chicago multiple times claiming she was driving towards her only for footage to show otherwise and she won in court.

    She refused to identify herself while yelling she was a citizen? I call bullshit. Well see the truth come out soon
     
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  4. B-Bob

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    I totally got your point, but they said she was here illegally and, based on the footage we've seen, seemed more obsessed with arresting her than ascertaining her status.

    Annotated. We will see, sooner or later.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Here's a shocking update - a guy who has spent 20 years on message board proclaiming that he's a libertarian to strangers for attention...

    ... is actually a white nationalist turducken who wants a brutal police state.

    I know it's always the ones you least expect!
     
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    WutWho?

    I swear it's not me

     
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    Zip tying and detaining a US citizen for more than 24 hours. This is what you "liberterians" have been fear mongering for decades @StupidMoniker but suddenly yall kiss their ass
     
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    Will there be any criminal charges filed for sexual assault? Or will they continue to do whatever they want with zero repercussions like they’ve been doing?

    she can file a lawsuit and get paid off the taxpayer dime, but that isn’t doing sh*t at the end of the day

    the ICE agent who shot that woman 5 times and lied his ass off…unless I missed it, I haven’t seen anything regarding a criminal case being pursued

    these ICE agents don’t care because civil lawsuits don’t do anything to them
     
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    All this anti Somalia fear mongering is just an excuse for ICE to target black citizen in the name of immigration. Its about to get ugly
     
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    one of the Somali dumb fcks said they voted for Trump because “he’s an agent of chaos”

    I hope he gets scooped up by ICE, held in a detention center for 2 months, then “accidentally” deported
     
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  11. StupidMoniker

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    If her anonymous cousin says so, it must be true.
    LOL, yeah I don't think you know what a white nationalist or a brutal police state are. Normal law enforcement officers enforcing laws that are in place in every nation in the world do not a police state make. Supporting the deportation of illegal immigrants does not white nationalism make. These are just incredibly weak accusations with no facts to back them up. In fact, my stated position has been to eliminate the welfare state and then have open borders, which is pretty much the opposite of white nationalism. Ideally, I would eliminate the entire concept of nation states entirely.
     
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    "If her cousin said so it must be true" lol what a pathetic response from a so call small government libertarian. If she wasnt a citizen you think they would've let her go? You people are no different than the MAGATs. You dont actually believe in small government. You just cosplay as one and nothing else

    Armed feds in ski masks kidnapping citizens and your "libertarian" suck them off lmao. The Trump era has exposed the disingenuous libertarians vs the authentic ones

    LOL detaining us citizens for 24+ hours with no charges is following the law. Clown ass

    The trump era has really exposed these clowns for what they are
     
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    If she was an illegal immigrant? No, they would have deported her. She was a citizen, so they let her go. I don't understand your point.
    It isn't kidnapping for law enforcement officers to detain people on suspicion of crimes. That is actually their job. Detain, complete your investigation, then charge or release. Generally, you have two court days to make that decision. I have elected not to charge many people "kidnapped" by the police and detained for 24+ hours. They are then released to go about their business.
    I'm sorry you don't understand the law enforcement process and it has deranged you.
     
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    Yeah they let her go after 30 hours even though she repeatedly told them her name which they rejected. She committed ZERO crime. They had ZERO reason to believe she was undocumented or committed a crime. She was held under the suspicion of supposedly being a illegal even though she was a citizen and had her papers.

    Libertarians claim giving money to poor desperate people is a crime against humanity but locking up citizens for days with no charges is perfectly fine lol. What a ****ing joke of a ideology
     
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    On Nov 2025,
    Federal judge permanently blocks Trump 2.0 from deploying National Guard to Portland, Oregon

    In her ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Karin Immergut found President Trump “did not have
    a lawful basis to federalize the National Guard.”

    Today, 10 Dec 2025,

    US judge blocks Trump's National Guard deployment in Los Angeles, and ordered the troops be returned to the state Governor Newsom's control.

    US District Judge Charles Breyer said the Trump administration had not proven that that the city's protests against immigration justified taking federal control of the state's National Guard.


    Breyer also denied the Trump administration's argument that the courts should not weigh in on a president taking controlof state National Guard troops during an emergency.

    "The Founders designed our government to be a system of checks and balances," Judge Breyer wrote in his ruling. "Defendants, however, make clear that the only check they want is a blank one."
     
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  16. StupidMoniker

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    Do you understand the difference between suspicion and fact? The fact that she was a citizen doesn't preclude reasonable suspicion she was not. I don't know what reason if any they had to detain her, as I wasn't there. I'll repeat myself, I have chosen not to charge hundreds of cases that the police have elected to arrest and hold someone for committing, because there are different standards for 1. detaining someone to conduct an investigation, 2. arresting someone on probable cause and holding them pending trial, and 3. finding proof beyond a reasonable doubt such that it is ethical to proceed with trial. None of those officers were crazy fascists on a power trip locking people up for no reason.
    It isn't the giving, it is the taking. You are free to give money to whomever you choose, no matter their level of desperation.

    We, as a nation, have determined that you can lock up citizens for two (court) days without filing charges. The worst days to get arrested are the Tuesday and Wednesday before Thanksgiving, because your arraignment date isn't until five days later. We, of course, make our best efforts to determine as quickly as possible whether or not charges will be filed and get people released if they are not going to face charges. Frequently we don't even get the reports until the day after the arrest though, so it isn't uncommon for someone to spend 24+ hours in custody while that determination is being made.
     
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    Fair point, but when a pattern emerges over and over that certain "races" of American citizens keep getting arrested on "suspicion" you can't help but think I'm the "suspicion" is simply their race. Is race enough of a reason to arrest and detain American citizens overnight just to weed out the illegals?
     
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    The vast majority of illegal border crossings are from Mexico by Hispanic people (not only from Mexico, but also central and south America). As a result, the vast majority of detentions of illegal border crossers are going to be Hispanic. It isn't racist that NBA refs call more fouls on black players in total, because the majority of players in the NBA are black. Do you want them to randomly arrest black and white Americans so the numbers look more equitable?
     
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    You missed the whole point. Was she driving without a license, and no ID or refusing to show one? Was she committing a criminal act when they yanked her, cuffed her, and took her away? Is it cool to just break some car windows, yank all Hispanics from their cars or workplace, throw them to the ground and arrest them first, and check their background later?

    It's not cool with any race, so no, I don't want them terrorizing anyone that way. I've heard enough stories about people terrified of what will happen if pulled over for no obvious reason other than not looking like they belong in these parts of the woods, and terrified. As a woman I'd be terrified if some guy, or groups of guys in masks just pulled me over and demanded I get out of the car.
     
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    I sincerely dont know if you're actually this dumb or just playing dumb. When youre deciding if a suspect shouod be charged or not the police already have reasonable suspicion or some sort of probable cause to keep the criminal detained while further investigation is needed.

    Whats happening now is US citizens walking on the sidewalk being kidnapped by masked agents for no reason. They have zero reason to believe they are illegal other than their skin color. These citizens have their papers and id on them yet ice refuses to look them up bcz they need to make daily quota for their pro profit corporate detention cells.

    Giving poor citizens money to help them = facism
    Locking up citizens for 30+ hours for no reason other than being brown= law nd order

    Your ideology is a joke

    The agent even joked that her hijab could have weapons under it and mocked her for being Muslim. These people dont give a **** about the law. Its about harassment
     
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