When will Reed be placed into the starting lineup?

And yet, you don’t give Amen the same type of love. Last game was a perfect example, 9 assists, 8 rebounds and perfect defense. Had a poor shooting night like Reed did several times, but Reed contributes when he is not shooting well, but Amen is sh*t when he isn’t. What a hypocrite!

 

I thought you didn’t watch the last game? He has been playing pretty bad, for him he’s at a C- / D+

but I don’t think it’s on him, he’s been making mistakes that don’t make sense and think he needs to rest for concussion

 

I didn’t, but unlike Reed, I can assume that Amen played well on defense which is generally a given. 9 assists is more than Reed has had all year. I was really just pointing out BTG’s hypocrisy. All players have bad games and if Amen sucked at everything, I would call him out if I got to watch the game. 9 assists is pretty clear evidence he didn’t suck at everything, even it is just box score. “Playing bad for him” is not really as bad as some of the hyperbole that Reed only fans use to degrade Amen. I hope they are both superstars and have already fallen on my sword when I predicted Reed would be a career backup as a shooter off the bench. His defense has already improved enough to earn a starter spot, although I think it is best for the Rockets at least for now if he is our 6th man.

 

Problem with Reed in the starting lineup, which I was afraid of back when this thread got started, was that he just wasn't going to take a lot of shots with the starters. And that has come to fruition. In the 46 minutes he's played with KD/Sengun/Amen, he has a usage of 10% and his TS% of .582 is way below his overall shooting. He and the other starters need to adjust to each other so he is taking a lot more shots even as a starter. Otherwise, play him off the bench and only bring him in at end of games with the starters as the uber floor spacer.

 

I agree, but will get roasted about it.

 

I'm pretty sure that even if Reed's usage takes a hit in the 10-12 minutes with the starters, he will still get more overall attempts. The TS% is likely a small sample fluke. Long term, the Rockets need Amen, Reed, and Sengun to learn to work together. Short to medium term, the Rockets need those 3 to learn to work with Durant.

 

You should really watch the game is all I’m going to say. I wouldn’t say that Amen was a better facilitator just because he had more assists. Reed had to dump to KD most plays and not do much else when bringing the ball up, he didn’t really get the opportunity.

the box score is telling you a very different picture. Amen has been bad, but even then most of what he does doesn’t show up in the box score

 

It’s hard to change your style of playing mid game when you’re figuring it out every game.

 

People are blinded by the score vs a g-league jazz team. We need Reed to be Reed and KD has to pass it out when he’s doubled/tripled if Reed is open

 

No problem with that. I will try and watch the game when I get back from visiting my grandchildren. I rarely miss a Rockets game since I moved to Houston in 1987. I live in Tennessee but rarely miss a Rocket game. Sometimes family responsibilities trump my love of the Rockets.

 

If you want him only playing 10-12 minutes with the starters, then he should just come off the bench. If he starts and finish games, that's already like 15+ minutes that he has to be playing with other starters. Cause you generally start subbing after ~7 minutes in the 1st quarter, and will sub starters back in halfway through the 4th. If he's off the bench and plays 25~30 minutes, he will naturally overlap with the starters playing 30~35mpg for around 10 minutes.

 

Lol, no one was talking about Amen.

Saying a positive thing about one player does not imply a bad thing about another.

Also "not shooting well" from Reed is 56% TS%...."not shooting well" from Amen is 27% TS% so it's not the same thing at all.

Amen has had some really tough games this season, but he provides defense, and that's usually enough.

 

Reed starting or not does affect what happens besides the start of the 1st and 3rd quarters, other than needing rest at different times. I think the sub mark is usually around the 6 minute mark. if it is 7 minutes into the game and the 3rd, I amend my statement to 10-14 minutes. It is just hard to get a lot of minutes from the bench when 10-14 minutes exclusively go to the starters at the start or the 1st and 3rd combined.

 

Reed seems to be there already.

 

Called it, Reed pretty much passing the second he gets the ball and playing scared, instilling bad habits. But to be blunt part of it is he needs to grow a pair and be aggressive

 

Welp...another single digit scoring game where Reed dribbled the ball past half court and then mostly observed while the big three played offense. He did take and make a decent volume of threes, but had just one attempt inside the arc. After all that momentum he'd built up the past couple of weeks, there was no rhythm or aggressiveness to his game on this back-to-back.

Hopefully these are just short-lived growing pains, but so far my concerns are looking pretty valid. And we lost to the Jazz, so I'm allowed to be annoyed even if it's just a couple of games.

 

I agree for the most part.

however, he clearly isn’t given the green light to be aggressive. He‘s clearly told to stay in the corners and stretch the floor so KD can go to work.

 

if this is true the coach needs to get the boot so he can go work at In N Out

 

I think it is. The switch up is crazy. When we were shorthanded against the warriors and Reed was allowed to take a couple of shots and miss some without getting yanked instantly, 31 pts was the result. Now with KD back, he misses 2 shots and no one ever seems to pass him the ball again.


i don‘t think it‘s a big conspiracy theory.

 

that’s the problem with Reed in the starting lineup. I’m not sure what’s best for the team, but Reed is best with the ball in his hands looking for teammates or getting into his middy. We’ve seen some moments of him being a dynamic player, but not usually with KD/Sengun/Amen. They don’t really look for him much in that starting group. Off the bench, he’s that spark and he’s there to run things, so it’s a different look for him. I like him starting because I think he’s one of the 5 best players on the team, but I don’t like the dynamic of him with the starters. He turns into PJ Tucker, sitting in corners. He’s much more valuable than that.