1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    27,965
    Reading about the Sox planning to add a bat after getting Gray made me wonder who would say no to this trade:

    Astros get:
    1B Tristan Casas
    CF Jarren Duran

    Red Sox get:
    3B Isaac Paredes
    1B Christian Walker
    $30M ($15M 2026, $15M 2027)

    Astros lineup would be very good if Casas reverts to his 2022-2024 form:

    CF Duran
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Correa
    2B Altuve
    1B Casas
    C Diaz
    LF Sanchez
    RF Smith

    I think the Sox probably say no but I think there’s a case it improves both teams.
     
  2. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,947
    Likes Received:
    8,994
    Casas is even more injury prone
     
  3. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,947
    Likes Received:
    8,994
  4. rockets1995

    rockets1995 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,947
    Likes Received:
    8,994
    Shark44 likes this.
  5. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    27,965
  6. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,297
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    punkoholic likes this.
  7. Amadeus Rooster

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2023
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    214
    Where to check it out?
    Here come the Astros Breathing Orange Fire!
     
  8. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,297
    Likes Received:
    11,903
  9. Amadeus Rooster

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2023
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    214
    Anyone ever heard of Gabe Winslow or Jim Sheridan? They have some great reading about the Stros!
     
  10. Amadeus Rooster

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2023
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    214
  11. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    27,965
    Gabe Winslow is @Wulaw Horn and I’m pretty sure Jim Sheridan is @IdStrosfan.
     
  12. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    27,965
    What might it look like if Houston shockingly embarked on a full rebuild?

    Orioles get:
    SP Hunter Brown
    OF Jesus Sanchez

    Astros get:
    IF Jackson Holliday
    OF Dylan Beavers
    SS Wehiwa Aloy

    Tigers get:
    SS Jeremy Pena

    Astros get:
    SS Brice Rainer
    SP Troy Melton
    IF Izaac Pacheco

    Red Sox get:
    3B Isaac Paredes

    Astros get:
    SP Payton Tolle
    SP Connelly Early

    Mets get:
    DH Yordan Alvarez
    RP Josh Hader
    OF Jake Meyers

    Astros get:
    OF Carson Benge
    IF/OF Jett Williams
    SP Brandon Sproat
    SP Jonah Tong

    Resulting roster:
    DH Altuve
    3B Correa
    LF Beavers
    1B Walker
    SS Holliday
    C Diaz
    RF Smith
    2B Matthews
    CF Cole
    Bench: Melton, Dezenzo, Garver*, Allen
    SP: Javier, Tolle, Sproat, Early, Arrighetti, Melton
    RP: Abreu, Harvey*, Sousa, King, Okert, McCullers, Pearson

    Top prospects: Tong, Aloy, Benge, Williams, Rainer, Pacheco, Neyens, Alvarez, Janek, Brito, Ullola, Pecko

    Astros would have a cleared out payroll (Walker, Harvey, and Garver would be midseason trade candidates, leaving Altuve, Javier, and Correa as the only contracts on the books after 2026), a top ~8 farm system (with a big jump into the top 3 expected after the next draft/deadline), and a big league roster that projects for about 78 wins (but with massive upside).
     
    #3072 Snake Diggit, Nov 26, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2025
    Jags and Amadeus Rooster like this.
  13. Castian Crew

    Castian Crew Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2023
    Messages:
    5,072
    Likes Received:
    5,818
    I like it... tell Brown
     
    Snake Diggit and J.R. like this.
  14. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,297
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    I'm Jim Sheridan.

    Thank you for the support and kind words.

    Gabe is @Wulaw Horn who also frequents this board.

    We "met" here.
     
  15. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,297
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    Kris Bubic would fit nicely.

    He has #2 stuff and performance history.

    He is lefthanded

    He is projected to make $6M in his final season of arbitration.

    The problem is that the Royals are looking to improve their offense at 2B and outfield.

    The Royals want MLB ready players as they hope to compete.

    I don't think the Astros will give up Matthews, Melton, or Cole for a rental.

    This could be a fit for Jesus Sanchez but with the value of starting pitching skyrocketing another major piece or even two would likely be needed.

    Jake Meyers is not a fit because Kyle Isbel is essentially a Jake clone who hits lefty.

    It has become apparent that all SP is going to be expensive. (my trade value based on fangraph projections)

    Jesus Sanchez ($4.5M), Joseph Sullivan ($15M), and James Hicks ($3M) for Kris Bubic ($18M)
    • Sanchez fills their need for corner OF
    • Neither prospect in the top 5
    • Sullivan is behind Melton and Cole plus there are other prospects who can replace him (Spence, Gomez)
    • Hicks has huge momentum from AFL but is Astros 10th best pitching prospect according to MLBpipeline and 13th by Fangraphs.
    It's a lot to give up but it fills a hole without much impact to the farm system or adding payroll. For the Royals it fills a hole and adds 2 mid level prospects who are a year away and don't need to be on the 40 man roster.
     
    #3075 IdStrosfan, Nov 27, 2025 at 9:28 AM
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2025 at 9:41 AM
  16. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    27,965
    I like it. Fair value, improves both teams. Main complicating factor is that Bubic ended the season out with a significant injury. He was cleared to start throwing this month so he should be fine, but his medicals could mess up any potential trade.
     
    The Beard and IdStrosfan like this.
  17. Amadeus Rooster

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2023
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    214
    Man o man would that be cool. If we aren't gonna win big then let go of all or most of em and bring in gigantic haul. Then win huge 2 years from now?
     
  18. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    9,297
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/11/brewers-reportedly-concerned-about-payroll.html

    Brewers like high ceiling pitching prospects that they can run through their own car wash similar to what the Astros do.

    Miguel Ullola : 70 grade fastball and had 10.37 K/9 in AAA last year.

    Ethan Pecko has a 60 grade fastball that Fangraphs says can develop to 70 and K/d 10.69 per 9 between AA and AAA last year.

    Ullola and Pecko for Freddy Peralta who is only asking $8M before becoming a FA in 2027.

    It's a lot to give up for a rental starter, but $8 is a GREAT salary.
     
  19. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,697
    Likes Received:
    7,665
    Curious why you trust Dana to the extent you do

    Not saying he has been terrible

    But three drafts in and we have 1 back end top 100 guy

    Yes, we drafted late in round 1, but a ton of guys drafted after us are way more prospect value

    Again, not trying to rip on Dana as I personally think he is a year away from really having enough data to truly evaluate him, but the absolute full trust in him is a bit confusing to me looking at the actual results so far
     
    everyday eddie and BlindHog like this.
  20. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,697
    Likes Received:
    7,665
    Only if you are willing to move Yordan, Brown and Pena if it doesn’t work out, cause we would immediately have the worst farm in the game and it wouldn’t be close
     

Share This Page