1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Eye test only thread, no stats allowed

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hemingway, Nov 3, 2025.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    48,070
    Likes Received:
    14,390
    The difference is that after starting off slow, Clint is averaging 6 rebounds in only 11 minutes in the 7 games in November. I am more than happy with his progress. He definitely isn't there yet, but his progress is noticeable.

    Tate is still so bad he's basically unplayable. The scary thing is he'll get more time during Tari's absence.
     
  2. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    11,934
    Likes Received:
    15,594
    He has missed a bunch of bunnies this year way more than 3, but I’m not concerned. I also thinks he passes out to the three when he should go ahead and score quite a bit. Still not concerned, if we need him to he can average 25 points a game after he adjusts to his new role. He should be averaging about 8 assists, but for some reason guys are missing shots they usually make and it may be that he hardly ever makes a pass in the half court that’s not to a 3 point shooter. His ability to get to the rim is elite and when this team gets in sync our offense is going to be unbelievable. It is eye test. I’m not big on researching stats and not sure if there is a stat for missed layups.
     
    Hakeemtheking likes this.
  3. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    11,934
    Likes Received:
    15,594
    One demerit for using stats in the no stats thread.
     
    cml750, Patience and TexasTofu like this.
  4. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    48,070
    Likes Received:
    14,390
    My bad.

    Seriously.
     
    TexasTofu likes this.
  5. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    11,934
    Likes Received:
    15,594
    LOL. I’ve wanted to break the rule myself a few times. The only reason I created the thread was because I was really sick of all the arguments over +-, Reed’s vertical leap and other stupid stats that don’t mean a damn thing.
     
  6. shakes05

    shakes05 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    742
    I'm hoping we'll give Tari's minutes to Jeff Green and Aaron Holiday based on matchups...Jasean Tate looking like he was hanging out too much at Turkey Leg Hut this past offseason.
     
  7. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    11,934
    Likes Received:
    15,594
    Just split his minutes up between Reed, Jabari, and Uncle Jeff until DFS gets back.
     
    shakes05 likes this.
  8. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    48,070
    Likes Received:
    14,390
    I think Reed and Okogie will see the biggest increase, followed by Holiday, Tate and Jabari.

    Jabari is already playing high minutes. Uncle Jeff is cooked. He might see extra time when the Rockets have a big lead.
     
    Amiga likes this.
  9. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    27,097
    Likes Received:
    17,465
    Don't have to research stats. Just have to watch games and not be biased. I just sorted his shots by distance and watched each of his misses out to the free throw line just to make sure my eyeball test was remembering things well. He only had 3 missed layups by my eyeball test. 1 since Detroit.

    If your eyeball test recorded way more than three missed layups, you are either lumping in floaters from 5-7 feet (as Reed's arms are not 5-7 feet, he can't just dunk those as you said he should do[i.e., I don't think you are refering to these, but giving this as an out for you to save face), overexaggerating things and refusing to back off when you are wrong, or letting your narrative affect your memory/perception. So maybe you are considering what I would consider a short floater a layup, but even then, talking maybe 4 or 5 misses total if you have a looser definition of layup.

    Personally, I think you wanted to exclude stats so you could say things and not be proven wrong by stats. However, as you specifically allowed eye ball tests, you are being proven wrong by eye ball tests.

    Reed just does not get all the way to the rim enough to have way more than 3 misses.
     
    cmlmel77 likes this.
  10. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    70,227
    Likes Received:
    34,304
    I do like that we have a thread specifically for those who have a 1975/middle school understanding of the game.
     
  11. ksny15

    ksny15 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    15,096
    Likes Received:
    7,892
    Eye test only Amen has been a disappointment. Compared to the hype we had.
     
    ElvinHayes2025 likes this.
  12. Patience

    Patience Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    8,317
    Likes Received:
    10,907
    Literally.
     
  13. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,792
    Likes Received:
    24,234
    Okogie is Tari's insurance, though he's a starter.

    Reed would be a starter, but just not there yet.

    So more minutes for both.

    Holiday picks up the slack after those two, and Tate is the very last option.
     
  14. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    11,934
    Likes Received:
    15,594
    Yeah forgot Josh in that post. No need for Jeff.
     
  15. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    27,097
    Likes Received:
    17,465
    Hey, Reed missed a layup.
     
  16. cml750

    cml750 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,989
    Likes Received:
    6,015
    Reed will soon move to the PG spot and lock it down for the next decade plus. Amen will go back to doing what he does best, reeking havoc on both ends of the floor.
     
    Easy likes this.

Share This Page