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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    it's almost like you understand weather vs climate
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    no, they don't understand ****.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    no matter if it's a teleevangelist, fossil fuel company financed propaganda, or showbiz presidents like Regan and Trump there is nothing some conservatives are willing to lay over and/or get down on their knees for.

    if humanity survives the 70's-2030's will be studied for a long time in how these people lapped up anything and everything put in front of them.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    people like @basso are not critical thinkers and just believe whatever they are told - like Dems are fighting for free healthcare for illegals and that's why they shut down the gov't. Or that vaccines causes autism - something completely laughable like the earth being flat.

    They don't have critical thinking skills but do have a big ego which makes them think they understand science better than people who actually spend their lives studying one specific area.
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    Ill just put this here.

    https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/aut.2023.0119?utm_source=chatgpt.com

     
  6. Space Ghost

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    After Years of Protests, Environmentalists Are Fighting to Save Nuclear Plants
    Protesters in Belgium are working to keep nuclear power as a plant operator moves to shut a reactor

    https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/af...1?st=pWKyfp&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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    HUY, Belgium—A 50-year-old reactor here was about to shut permanently last week after years of antinuclear protests, when a mysterious projection appeared on its massive cooling tower: the title of the Queen song “Don’t Stop Me Now” next to an image of Freddie Mercury raising his fist in the air.

    The stunt was pulled off by activists aiming to save the reactor, taking a page from the antinuclear playbook of Greenpeace and other groups who long sought to close it. The Belgian government also wants to keep the reactor running—after repealing a 22-year-old law this year that required a phaseout of nuclear energy.

    The problem: Its operator, France’s Engie, says it is too late. The company shut the reactor at the Tihange plant last week and is pushing ahead with a plan to dismantle it. Engie wants out of the nuclear energy business, which for decades has subjected it to antinuclear protests and the changing whims of Belgian politics.

    “Business decisions have been made and set, but we need to reverse course,” said Rob De Schutter, a campaigner with a pro-nuclear environmental group called WePlanet that helped organize the stunt.
    more at the link
     
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    Climate change is NOT man made. It's being used as a way to open up another avenue to tax businesses... since personal income taxes, corporate income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, transfer taxes, excise taxes, payroll taxes, estate taxes, capital gains taxes, etc... are clearly not enough to satisfy the liberals spending needs. "Climate change" is also another way for the government to control the means of production (since companies can't run without energy)... a longstanding goal of socialists.

    Don't fall for the climate change lie. Instead choose lower energy costs and lower taxes.


    GOOD DAY
     
  10. Commodore

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    welp . . . sounds like it's game over for catastrophists

    Bill Gates makes major climate change reversal after years of doomerism: ‘People will be able to live and thrive’

    https://nypost.com/2025/10/28/us-ne...ate-change-reversal-after-years-of-doomerism/

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    Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, who has spent more than a decade warning that the world was on the brink of unimaginable peril due to rising global temperatures, now says climate change “will not lead to humanity’s demise” in a stunning reversal.

    Gates, 70, who has sunk billions of his vast fortune into initiatives ostensibly meant to combat global warming, penned a lengthy blog post this week urging a shift away from the “doomsday outlook” many climate activists have adopted to terrify nonbelievers into seeing things their way.

    “Although climate change will have serious consequences — particularly for people in the poorest countries — it will not lead to humanity’s demise,” he wrote. “People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future.”
    when you've lost Bill Gates . . . .

    more at the link
     
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    NY Times version if you're allergic to the NY Post:

    Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’
    In a memo, the Microsoft co-founder warned against climate alarmism and appears to have shifted some of his views about climate change.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/28/...e_code=1.w08.ai2f.tkhBAJZMOiJc&smid=url-share

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  13. dobro1229

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    The timing is always impeccable. A couple days after this thread was reloaded by ignorant posts by an ignorant fool, the 2nd strongest hurricane on record this late in the season emerges and looks like it could devastate Jamaica… which is like… not that far from the United States.

    Had the jet stream been curved a slightly different angle, a storm as bad as Milton with warmer waters in the gulf could have easily devastated half of a state along the coast.

    The science is not that difficult or controversial. The water is warmer. Warmer water produces bigger more powerful storms. More powerful storms create more damage.
     
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    Climate change is literally basketball. It’s not complicated.

    DD
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/bill-ga...4?st=b5fd41&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Bill Gates Rethinks Climate Catastrophe
    Ahead of COP30, the billionaire is sounding like our long-time contributor Bjorn Lomborg.
    By The Editorial Board
    Oct. 30, 2025 5:30 pm ET

    The climate conformity caucus is breaking up at long last, and the latest evidence is a change of mind by none other than Bill Gates. The Microsoft billionaire turned liberal philanthropist now says the “doomsday view” about the climate is wrong, and “it’s diverting resources from the most effective things we should be doing to improve life in a warming world.”

    As epiphanies go, this is welcome. Mr. Gates, in his advocacy, has been a leading promoter of the view that a warming climate is an existential crisis that demands urgent political action. His 2021 book has the nuanced title, “How to Avoid a Climate Disaster.” Without innovation, he wrote, “we cannot keep the earth livable.” The effect on humans “will in all likelihood be catastrophic.”

    Now, on the cusp of the latest COP30 climate conclave in Brazil next month, Mr. Gates offers different advice. An essay released on his website promises “three tough truths about climate,” the first of which is that rising temperatures are “a serious problem” but “will not be the end of civilization.”

    Wait—this is a hard truth? You mean humanity isn’t doomed? The only people for whom this is a “tough” message are the climate zealots who remain committed to the idea that rising temperatures are a totalizing emergency. They say this to intimidate politicians into giving them billions of dollars in green subsidies, along with other powers to remake the modern economy and society.

    Mr. Gates now sounds like Bjorn Lomborg, the “skeptical environmentalist” whose writing often runs in these pages. Mr. Lomborg has been arguing for years that while warming temperatures are a reality, the world’s poor in particular face far more urgent challenges. He believes, as these columns have also long argued, that the best way to cope with rising temperatures is through innovation, adaptation, and policies that continue to spread economic growth and prosperity.

    Now listen to the new Mr. Gates. “Although climate change will hurt poor people more than anyone else, for the vast majority of them it will not be the only or even the biggest threat,” he writes. “The biggest problems are poverty and disease, just as they always have been.”

    Health problems related to poverty, such as malaria, kill about eight million people a year, according to Mr. Gates’s essay. While about 500,000 people a year die from excessive heat, he says, “surprisingly, excessive cold is far deadlier, killing nearly ten times more.” Mr. Lomborg has been assailed by the climate left for making that same point about deaths from cold versus heat.

    Mr. Gates also recognizes that “using more energy is a good thing,” because it means economic growth. Yet activists in wealthy Western countries, he says, have pushed to keep fossil fuels in the ground. “This pressure has had almost no impact on global emissions,” he says, “but it has made it harder for low-income countries to get low-interest loans for power plants that would bring reliable electricity to their homes, schools, and health clinics.”

    Give that last part a Glory Hallelujah.

    This is a hard slap of reality from a source that the COP30 crowd can’t easily ignore. It’s also a sign of the shift away from the catastrophe consensus that has dominated debate about climate. If Bill Gates can dissent from Armageddon orthodoxy, maybe Facebook won’t censor our op-eds in the future.

    Much credit for this consensus crackup belongs to the world’s democratic voters, who have made clear over many years in many places that they won’t accept a degraded quality of life for promised climate benefits decades in the future. Perhaps Mr. Gates is responding to that political reality.

    He calls for investments in innovation, with a vision for a world in which “almost all new cars will be electric,” and clean cement and steel displace today’s materials. But give the billionaire credit for also urging an intellectual climate change at COP30, or as Mr. Gates calls it, “a strategic pivot: prioritize the things that have the greatest impact on human welfare.” Imagine that.

    Appeared in the October 31, 2025, print edition as 'Bill Gates Rethinks Climate Catastrophe'.

     
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    LOL...humans will survive, if you have enough money to prep for the future
     

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