PG trade candidates at deadline

The was a lengthier point in time that Reaves and White were clearly below the likes of Jrue and Fox.

 

The problem with Jrue and Fox is you’d have to include FVV, and he has an implied no-trade clause. Porter is definitely an intriguing prospect.

The larger issue is minutes. When DFS gets back, whose minutes will this trade candidate take? Adams is looking great, Okogie fits well so far, etc. With DFS, we’re basically at a 10 man lineup. Of course, this isn’t a problem if you’re including one of our rotational guys, but we better get solid return.

Therein lies the problem - the only person who sort of maybe makes sense to trade is Tari for a ball handler, and the options are pretty limited when looking at guys who will match his impact, especially since you can’t really add FVV’s contract in a trade.

 

If Okogie can shoot a decent percentage at 3 like he did last year, we don’t need a trade. He and Amen make a really good backcourt and Reed can come off the bench in relief of either one. Pretty much Okogie just takes the role that was intended for FVV this year (off ball) and Sheppard his intended role as a backup guard. If Okogie can’t hit a decent clip at 3, then Reed has to grow up fast or we have to make a trade for another guard that can (and play defense).

 

I honestly like this idea. At least, I think we should roll with it for a while. There is a lot of optionality, too - if Reed develops well, he can replace Okogie next season with FVV as a great sixth man. Or perhaps Reed will thrive in his sixth man role, and FVV can step back into the starting lineup. And there’s always the option of extending Okogie and trade FVV next offseason.

 

So you’re saying that Cleveland has this talented youngster, Porter Jr., that the Rockets should get?
Hmmmm…
Has anything like this ever happened before?

 

Maybe let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming Dylan Harper better than Deearon Fox and needing to address the PG spot with a journeyman FVV wannabe.

 

Remember when we could have signed reeves or harden but stone and ime epstein decided to give fred vanvleet $40 million instead

 

dribble dribble dribble dribble

 

Eh lets wait till mid December and see where we are at since we have no choice but to wait for a trade. Landscape could change by then and more players could become available.

 

brick brick brick from our 30% shooter

 

Okogie can't be a secondary ball handler like FVV or shoot as well as FVV if doing the same type of shooting. Okogie is really nice defensively (understatement). I'm skeptical of the 3-ball being reliable at anything but wide-open threes.

I'd add Alvarado as a PG target. I'd also add Ellis as a target as I'm more comfortable with his three-point shooting than I am with Okogie's, though Okogie is the better defender.

 

While I’m concerned about the lack of ball handling on the roster, I’d rather give Amen, Reed, Okogie, Davidson, and Holiday a shot at managing the backcourt before I made any trades. That said, we’ll see what things look like at the deadline. Beyond the obvious issues Fred’s loss creates, if one more of our backcourt guys had to miss time, we’d be in serious trouble.

Jru Holiday’s contract is bad and woukd impair us going forward. He’s also a declining player. Fox is one of those guys who is making the max but isn’t a max player. He can’t provide the spacing we need; not a good fit.

 

See how it goes this year. If Amen and Reed don't make a leap as the PG then next summer trade for Booker.
But give Amen and Reed their opportunity first, not just 3 games. We might have something special if we are patient.

 

Coby White is my target. He fits both without FVV and with him once he's back next year, since he can play 1/2, and is only 25.

Ideally we'd deal Reed + whatever for him, but I might even consider moving Tari, since they apparently have a lot of interest in him.

Somehow the Bulls are 3-0 with the #3 defense with White out, and are leaning into that end of the floor -- and Tari fits pretty perfectly (and gives them a defensive Wing that actually produces, unlike guys like Patrick Williams and Okoro).

What I like about White is that he can play with or without the ball, can shoot off the catch or dribble (3 3PM per36 at 38% over the past 4 years), and defend 1s and 2s well enough to not be targeted (unlike Reed). He's not a true point, but he'll give you 5 APG without a ton of turnovers -- and would immediately become the best P/R option on our team (and with KD/Jabari we have a ton of pick-and-pop upside we're not tapping into right now -- and Sengun too if his 3PT % improvement is real).

But if we moved Reed + Tate + a future pick for White, we'd have a pretty killer lineup

Starters: A.Sengun - J.Smith - K.Durant - A.Thompson - C.White
Bench: T.Eason - S.Adams - D.Finney-Smith - A.Holiday

 

FVV makes $25M. We are hardcapped at the first apron and cannot exceed it for any reason. We are currently $1.2m below the apron.

That means that any salary that we take back in a trade cannot be more than $1.2m over what we send out.

Holiday makes $32m and Fox makes $37m. That means its going to take more than FVV to trade for either one.

 

Assuming Reed and Amen isn't going to cut it, and Boston keeps looking terrible, I think Derrick White just makes sense for both teams. Framework would be FVV + matching salary + 1 premium pick (a Suns/Brooklyn pick) and a Rockets 1st that's likely to not be in the lottery. Beyond that, don't really see any good half-measures out there.

 

I would want nothing to do with option 1 and 2.

 

Jrue is interesting if Portland is willing to give up enough to dump him. Maybe something like fvv, tari, filler for jrue, that young center, and 2 unprotected firsts? Fox is a non starter without the kings pick they have and probably castle or multiple other firsts

 

The only one I can think of its dennis schroder.
Everyone else too expensive and old