We really don't know what was offered so we can't say how fair, or not the deal was. What we do know is that the offer was in the neighborhood of $100m. That's $20m per. The big question was guarantees. Considering the injury history and the prognosis that his career could be cut short due to that injury - what's fair to both the team and the player. We know Tari wants the entire 5 years guaranteed but that's just not a realistic demand.
The doctors have cleared him to play. Not sure what you’re referring to. Yes no one knows the terms of the deal or what Tari is thinking or feeling. Also This has all been addressed in terms of both sides protecting themselves.
I would have done 20 m per for 3 years with a mutual option after year 3. i still like Jabari for the long term outlook a bit more. Tari/Capela/FVV/Holiday/Draft pick should net us a nice player.
If Tari wanted 4 years, $100m, fully guaranteed then I would not have offered him that. I could change my mind 20 games into the season, but given the deadline it would be a no from me. However, if he's willling to make the final year a team option I would take the risk. I bet the team wanted earlier protections from his injury.
I am not saying he should have taken the deal he did not like. That is his choice. And he can feel any kind of way about the negotiations, we do not know exactly how they went. Hell, deep down he can already be done with organization. Still showing that emotions can affect his level of play to that level is not a message he wants to send to all the GMs in the league. Well at least if he hopes to get the bag he thinks he should. He is a hustle player not a superstar. Hustle player that apparently can choose not to hustle if he does not feel like it.
Still remember Matt Dominguez who scoffed at the Astros contract extension, on the cusp of the dynasty run. When players bet on themselves, it can go either way! In the case of Matt Dominguez, fella probably tells himself “no ragrets”…
I’m usually pretty patient with young guys, but Tari’s not exactly a young player anymore. He’s turning 25 next year, so the whole “he’s still got potential” thing is starting to sound like a bedtime story. I’d ship him for a real PG while he still has value. One more injury and we’re basically trading him for a bag of chips.
Rumor was it was about 17 million for 3 years, with Team options of 8 and 10 million for years 4 and 5. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/matt-dominguez-astros-nearing-extension.html
Yeah, he’s technically an older player because he spent two years in college, but in NBA terms, it’s more like his 3rd year than his 4th. He missed 75% of his 2nd season and played only about 70% of the 3rd. This isn’t about untapped potential. He was already elite in several areas from day one. It’s less about waiting for him to develop and more about getting him back to that level and sustaining or improving on it. This drastic drop-off seems like a fluke, though mental lapses can hit as hard as physical ones. I believe he’ll bounce back.
The thing about Tari is he’s convinced he’s sitting on some hidden treasure of potential, but he forgets basketball isn’t a solo expedition. The guy’s acting like he’s elite when, truthfully, he’s miles away from it right now. Before anyone calls him “elite” at anything, maybe finish one healthy season first, preferably without disappearing for half of it. He hasn’t sustained that so called greatness for even a full year, yet somehow thinks he deserves starter treatment and Jabari-level money. Man, you can’t pout like a diva and shut yourself down just because you didn’t get your way. This whole thing feels like a discount version of what Cam pulled last year, same drama, smaller budget.
hey can someone give me an example where a player turned down a contract and then got MO’ MONEY? I can’t remember any. I remember many opposite cases: Olowakandi, Bonzi Wells, D-Mo, Schroeder, Oladipo…. I think this idiot did himself pretty badly, too.
Nope and the reason why is NBA team evaluation are usually on point, rarely do they mess up what a player is actually worth. Maybe if you count James Harden but he was already going to receive a max from Morey. But if you look at how Tari speaks and how his mom tweets, you can pretty much gather what kind of people they are. Overconfident in their own abilities to a point that's detrimental to their bottom line. Tari is one nagging injury away from being offered 20M per year to 10M per. He is so bad right now that Stone is opting to bench him. If you ask me, someone needs to check all the bets on Tari right now, feels way too fishy for him to be playing like dogshit to start the season right after a contract dispute. Someone already mentioned there are some weird bets on his over and under. I actually prefer if we just traded him than paying him a lower offer because I just know him and his mom are going to blame it on the team for his failures and will probably be disgruntled with a much lower contract.
Jimmy Butler a couple of times. The Bulls tried to peg him as a side piece for Derrick Rose and he angrily refused that label. Now he's made a crazy amount of money. I must say, off the top of my head, there seem to be way more cases where the player loses when betting on themself.
I don't see the 'Tari has clocked out on us' narrative. I still see the same guy out there we have seen the last few years - the highs and the lows of that player. The guy who makes a defensive stop or grabs a loose ball that no one thought possible or makes an aggresive play to score - but also the same guy who fouls a 3 pt shooter, misses a layup, or jumps up the air with no one to pass it to and ends up with a bad TO. Tari is basically a walking/talking loot box that can dish out big prizes but also undesirable outcomes too.
Nah, that guy in the previous years was one of the most emotional, hyped players on the bench. Now he's a zombie.
He may not be waving his Pom poms with the same amount of zeal. But, I don’t see anything different about his game on the court.
