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[WaPo] Trump plans $200M overhaul of East Wing in significant change to White House

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jul 31, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    You know what he’s talking about. Stop playing the semantic games to troll. Corruption, pay to play, etc. Do you think it should be embraced or not?

    In a free market capitalist system, the government has unbiased referees but does not get involved in picking and choosing winners and losers. Having a system that exists to where whoever buys the most sh$t coin or pays the biggest mar a lago membership fee is straight up corruption and not how a healthy democratic capitalist country works. It’s what happens in a socialist system that goes array when the government becomes too centralized, amasses too much power, and the dear leader takes advantage to line their own pockets when the oligarchs kiss the ring in order to stay in the graces of the dear leader. The tariffs are another big example of what socialist systems can be exploited for in order to give power to the corrupt leader.

    So I’m guessing since you are an activist for the current corrupt wannabe dictator that you do not believe in free market capitalism correct? If you’d like to actually tell us what you believe instead of sh$tposting like a 12 year old that would be great.
     
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  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Your side lost its ability to accuse Republicans of corruption after Joe Biden preemptively pardoned his family for actual corruption.

    So people simply do not believe Democrats on this issue after what they witnessed. Unless you believe drug-addict and sister-in-law sex machine Hunter Biden is an international energy policy expert with the painting touch of Michelangelo.


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  3. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Okogie Only Fan
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    not semantics--logic. Semantics would be arguing whether "donations" is a better contextual descriptor than "philanthropy." 123's assertion was a simple non sequitur.

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  4. dobro1229

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    Again... you continue to do a fantastic job of making my point for me every time. Never answer a question. Never have to actually state your position. Only attempt to divert, and troll in service of MAGA.

    I continue to see zero competition on this forum for top MAGA propagandist. I hope you wear that badge with pride.
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    Seriously
    What is the probability that this will end up being over a Half a Billion Dollar Project?

    Rocket River
     
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  6. Rocket River

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    Meh
    Kushner got BILLIONS from the Saudis

    Rocket River
     
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  7. Sajan

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    It's the same behavior from all of them.

    OS. Space Ghost. Goatboy. Raining trees.
     
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    Honestly - to me part of this is like when Republicans complained about Obama golfing so much and then Democrats complaining about Trump golfing or the expense of vacations. I don't have a problem with spending money to improve the Whitehouse.

    I do however have a problem with donations from billionaires and corporations funding it. It should be paid for by the US taxpayers.

    I am far more concerned with the tariff situation, relations with the West and China and a number of domestic issues.
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    Your problem is your attitude, I just don’t respect you. So for the time being I guess you’re just shitte out of luck
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    I know you have stated before that you are upset that people care. I know that attitude is very inconvenient in your activists attempts to normalize the rise of authoritarianism in America. You've actually made that point very clear that this is a frustration for you, and your activist attempts.

    I'm happy to disappoint you on my "attitude" given your obvious activist efforts. If I was compliant, and played into your act to treat everything as a meme or joke that would be a pretty bad sign of where we are as a society.
     
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  12. dobro1229

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    That's why I refer to it as a methodology. Whether its trained or just innately learned through example is unclear, but the methodology is pretty clear. It goes something like:

    Something political or perceived politically happens:

    -Someone or people bring that up with criticism with the MAGA ideology
    -MAGA activist claims independent or former liberal ideology themselves to attempt credibility
    -MAGA activist tries to use potential credibility to whataboutism on any activity that a Democrat took in human history that could be comparable
    -Gaslight, gaslight, gaslight
    -MAGA activist tells concerned person that they are just being over dramatic, and denigrates them personally by calling them TDS, or painting them as a crazy liberal
    -When MAGA activist is countered in their failed argument, divert by finding one word or a phrase that could derail the topic to a more obscure topic
    -When MAGA activist is pressed to tell them what they actually believe on the initial point of the discussion, respond with a meme or gif


    It's an activist methodology which looks to be designed specifically to instead of taking debate head on, you deceive, counter, and deflect in order to serve the political interests narratively with the entity that the person originally had a problem with. It's about in the end, shaping the narrative that DEMOCRATS ARE WORSE, and going to the mat to remove any semblance of ownership of negative narratives on the MAGA right.

    If we want to talk about respect, I think we should look at judging people based more on them not being deceptive about who they are, and attempting to manipulate. I would much rather have a debate with Stupidmoniker who I actually respect because he owns up to who he is, and what he believes in at least. People are going to know they are being manipulated so why BS them, and just piss them off by insulting them?
     
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  13. Os Trigonum

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    you don't disappoint me; I have no expectations of you for you to disappoint. I stated that I don't respect you.
     
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    My problem is they lying and ignoring proper channels to get it built. I have no concept of how needed a ballroom is, but if one is needed, it could go through proper channels, and be built anywhere on the massive White House grounds. There are multiple buildings already.
     
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    ballroom derangement syndrome is real :D

     
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    More crony ass capitalism. You want a merger? You want any sort of regulatory approval? The only way is bribes !
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Even the WASHINGTON POST supports Trump's move to build a ballroom. Can you imagine asking dignitaries to use a porta-potty? LOL -- liberals have lost their minds with their opposition to this beautiful ballroom! And no taxpayer dollars will be used! Trump delivers again.

     
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    Amazon which was one of the largest donors to the ballroom whos owner also owns Washington post approves of the ballroom? Amazing insight by the MAGA cult

     
  19. astros123

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    Nobody has issues with the ballroom. Biden folks needed to put up a huge tent to host state dinners cuz there was no space. The issue what people have is corporations and donors donating to the ballroom in exchange for favors or merger approvals. If this concept is too hard for you to understand then you're a lost cause
     
  20. heymak

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    The problem is the unilateral approach to the process. Once it's built it would be a foolish waste of our money to raze it an build something else. Relabel it if Trump does his usual naming convention, but don't waste our money.
     

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