What GM wouldn't put conditions in place to protect the team when dealing with a player who has the injury history of Tari. If they offered 5/100 with only the first two years guaranteed and team options beyond that, I think that's more than reasonable for a player who has missed 85 games over the course of the last two years - that's more than an entire season. I probably wouldn't have offered more than a 3 year deal with options for years 2 and 3. How crushing would it be to your cap situation to just throw away $20m per off the for the next 5 seasons, and even if you use the stretch provision, it's still painful, especially for a team with championship aspirations. Stone doing his job.
I said nothing about what Stone and his team should or shouldn’t do considering your response to my statement. I specifically talked about Tari’s possible feelings about not feeling valued and how most people would want the most money as possible for themselves including yourself. Stick to the topic. If you have something to say to me make sure you are properly quoting my statements. Also You and none of the fans on here shouldn’t talk about any trades or transactions or anything relating to this team since you are doing the coaches, management, and agents jobs.
On this, I agree with Stone. Tari and his representatives had to understand that any offer would have contingencies and/or team options due to his history. And yes, I can tell by his play in Game 1, his attitude at the game on Friday and when he made his opening statement to start the game, he just seems ALOOF
If you were a professional basketball player waiting your whole life for a first big contract, how would you personally feel? How about your current life in whatever position you are in. Would you be completely understanding and loving and accepting? Would you be free from disappointment? Frustration? Hurt? We don’t know what’s going through his mind. And he likely is hurt. Has anyone even thought about this? No one on this board has talked about natural emotions of hurt and I know you and everyone on here has felt these emotions. Accepting a circumstance or condition doesn’t mean you are immune to hurt or disappointment. Like I said let’s see how he plays the rest of the year and that’s a true test of his will and character. As I said before people criticize others for things they themselves do. I hope Udoka and other leaders are supporting him encouraging him during this time. The fact is management is looking after their own interests and the player is protecting himself. No one wins. It is what it is. Bad situation.
She's wrong because his defense has sucked too. One notable highlight in two games which was the steal and fastbreak score. That's it.
I understand what you're saying but like you said towards the end both the Organization and Tari's representatives are trying to protect their interest....its a business. It's hard to put all of your efforts into something or someone who you feel doesnt share your beliefs. And right now, Tari feels as though him and the Rockets aren't on the same page as for as his future.
Hopefully, he's just going through a phase. He was horrendous in G1, and was better, but still bad in G2. I assume the coaching staff knows what's going on and is giving him time... So, no, he's not officially checked out. He's going through something, likely related to his contract, but even that is a guess. Eventually, he has to deliver. There’s only so much the team can allow.
Man, I have loved Tari, but he's been terrible these two games. If he's going to play like this, he can leave in a package for a point guard. Good god do we need a point guard. I'm convinced we'd be 2-0 if Fred were out there.
Kids these days... Dude is being paid north of 5m to play basketball and will rather pout than prove that he is worth whatever number Stone was unwilling to give him. The only thing he is proving is that Stone was right.
Instead of being ticked off at the team, I wonder if Tari has regrets about not signing what the Rockets offered. I know from experience remorse can be very powerful and difficult to move on from.
The quality of the offer doesn’t matter, it wasn’t to Tari’s satisfaction. He bet on himself that he can earn a better one. I really don’t know what your contention is, this wasn’t even the point I was making…
There were signs of that happening already. Double big did not play in the 4th Q, and logged only 6 minutes for the whole 2nd half. Which was more like the pattern of last year.
Why do you look at it as a contention? You responded to my post with a question. I answered your question. It’s not that serious
not all defense makes highlights. The team as a whole didn’t play well on defense in that Detroit game.
or flip it. Does Stone have remorse about not giving him a guaranteed deal. Of course everything about this issue is hypothetical and assumption
That’s easy to say but You’re not a professional basketball player. None of us are on this board. CEO’s and lawyers etc turn down deals as well let’s not forget. It’s about how much you’re worth in terms of market value and how much you are willing to accept in a contract. If you knew a market was out there for you regardless of profession (in thia case millions) you would want the most money for yourself as possible. Why would an individual accept any deal and be happy? If this is the case all players in the league should never seek max contracts or the most money possible for themselves. They should direct their agents to seek less money. Again every man is self interested—both The organization and the player.
We all get it, Tari, or any player wants what he believes he's worth .... and that the player might feel some kinda way about being lowballed. You been telling us how Tari might feel for several pages. But bottom line is, Tari's got to play a hell of a lot better than he has and not miss many games in the process for any team to make him that kind of offer. Right now, he's costing himself money. He keeps this crap up, he'll be lucky to get a veteran minimum deal in Shanghai.
No one disputes what you are saying. I have never said he doesn’t need to play better. My response was to a fan who said he should accept any deal and be happy with it which is not fair to the player or realistic.
