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[Official] Astros Offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 29, 2025.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    This roster just needs health. Coaches smoaches. Healthy Yordan healthy Paredes healthy Altuve and a full year of healthy Correa and this offense will be really really good even if they don’t get bounce backs from Diaz and Walker and improvement from Smith, which is all probable.

    The Astros had horrible horrible outcomes with player health. Whether bad luck or shitty job by their medical staff or both, that’s the reason Houston didn’t make the playoffs.
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% for new blood in the hitting department. But you ain't gonna do **** if half you guys are hurt.
     
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    Agree to disagree. We don't have star studded lineup to just run out there even healthy. We don't have a rotation to count only few runs will be needed to win. I don't understand the attitude "nothing to see here".

    We should be going for any edge team and individual player wise possible. I can't understand why it seems ok that the whole org is dumbfounded after losses what opposing pitching was serving that day. Some crap about agressiveness being/not being spot on can't be main thing talked after games.

    It feels we are stuck either in era of having overpowering team or era of not having any smart plan/aproach or both. We need good hitting coaches but also the leadership to "enforce" it. When you have Correa making excuses after million terrible team AB's it tells a lot.

    Hope they still stumble into playoffs even if not making changes Im dreaming of. Would it be end of the world to shake things up and demand something more of players? Not what worked b4 or what might stumble us into post season.....maybe what could make them best they can be and try to install the culture of players being any cog needed to win. Feels like we have quite many players being "Im like this take it or leave it" and only 1 future HOF who has earned it and even him is mismanaged by usage.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Wha ****ing wha?

    This is a bunch of jibberish.

    They haven't even hired the new round of coaches. What exactly do you want?
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    I guess my response here is this: name me a hitting coach, at any point in MLB history, that has shown to consistently elevate hitters to perform above their projections. It’s not a thing. Coaches have not been seen to make a difference, consistently.
     
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  6. Nick

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    Rudy Jaramillo was one of the best ever…. And the list of future HOFers that attribute his expertise/training/coaching to is longer than my…. Well, it’s long.

    Once a hitting coach’s philosophy (whatever it may be) becomes a team approach… the league will adjust. But once they do that, that opens all sorts of opportunities for the hitters to consolidate those tendencies, with the simulators they have that will replicate the exact pitches, and there is opportunity there.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Rudy Jaramillo was one of the best (he's 75ish years old now)

    ...and retired when he was fired for the 3rd time 15 or so years ago
     
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  8. Nook

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    From what I have been told, they are confident Matthews can play all three defensive spots in the OF.
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    Great!

    Yeah, but who are going to be his hitting coaches? ;)

    You know, don't lie.
     
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  11. Nook

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    I honestly don't know who the hitting coach is going to be. I know that around the time the season ended, the Astros were debating getting rid or one or two of the top 5 guys in the front office, not sure if they have done that yet or if they changed their mind for some reason. There is also a guy in the Indians player development the Astros would like to add to their front office.
     
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  12. Joe Joe

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    On average, hitters hit 18 OPS points higher with Jaramillo than without per ESPN. If that is the best recent hitting coach (or even just a good one), hitting coaches don't make much of a difference.

    Caveat: I mean in season. Development of prospects, it means a lot. Helping older guys not show the signs of age, not so much.
     
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  13. Nick

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    Was looking more at his impact on younger players (on their way to HOF careers) as well as just the length/longevity of him being employed at one place.

    Obviously guys tune out the same speeches/advices/strategies once they've heard them over and over again, so he clearly has the ability to evolve or adapt his training based on what pitchers are trending towards... and he's probably been around the block or two to be able to simply identify strength's/weaknesses having seen or watched the thousands of players who have gone through the system.

    Finding the perfect combination of experience with somebody able to adapt to modern times (and continue to evolve based on further adjustments) should be the gold standard for any/all coaches... but we do know that some simply don't have that adaptability skill and hard to have "experience" when you're first starting out (at that point, I presume you'd have something innovative... or some unique skillset that carries you till the experience settles in).
     
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    Well - if he comes to the Astros, he won't be throwing 7 different pitches.
     
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    No bueno.
     
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  17. Snake Diggit

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    ****!
     
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  18. Snake Diggit

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    Innings to replace:
    Framber 192
    Gusto 86
    Gordon 86
    McCullers 55
    Walter 53
    Blanco 48
    Ort 46
    Wesneski 32
    Dubin 25
    Scott, Contreras, Neris, Kimbrel, Hernandez, Garcia, Whitley 76

    That’s about 700 innings.

    Expected additions in house:
    Javier ~100
    Arrighetti ~100
    Pearson ~70
    Pecko, Ullola, Fleury, other SP prospects ~70
    Murray, VanWey, Leach, Knor, other RP prospects ~70
    Blubaugh ~50

    So the Astros need to add about 250 innings before accounting for potential injuries. So realistically they probably need to add about 400 innings. So two reliable durable SP projected to pitch deep into games plus another durable quality RP.

    Projecting 1400 regular season innings next season:
    Brown 180
    TBD SP 160
    TBD SP 160
    Javier 140
    Arrighetti 120
    Blubaugh 90
    Pearson 70
    Hader 70
    Abreu 70
    TBD RP 60
    Sousa 60
    King 60
    Okert 60
    Smattering of rookie/fringe P (Pecko, Ullola, Murray, etc.) 100
     
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  19. punkoholic

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    Any idea if both coaches dealt with starters and relief pitchers? Or 1 dealt with the starters and the other relievers? You think they'll bring in someone new or let Miller do it all? Any chance they bring back Strom lol.
     
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  20. Nook

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    Miller and Murphy worked together but Miller did more. Murphy would work more with the guys in the minor leagues or on assignment/rehab. Murphy also was involved with watching a lot of film.

    If the Astros had to lose one - it would be Murphy. Miller has the better contacts and worked more with big leaguers.

    Murphy I suspect wanted to do more than he has been, and the Pirates have some excellent arms.

    I don’t know enough about what was going on down the stretch and what was discussed between Brown and the coaches and guys in the front office- but it’s possible Murphy was concerned about his situation.
     
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