Why we use a top 3 on someone we know wont be a franchise player? We could have just signed s vet if we wanted a role player. Stone literally said he had Reed top 1 by a wide margin and the best player in the draft: DWhite and Pritchard werent taken top 3 or were even lotto picks to begin so its fine if they take years to break out. White was 29th pick, PP was 27th.
Choices were limited when the Rockets selected Reed. There was no guarantee at that spot. The Rockets were not going to not make a pick.
Stone thought he was no 1 prospect by a wide margin. Even if he has no 1 it would still be or maybe trade down and get Reed so nah choices werent limited they got their guy.
Stone didnt think Green was no 1 in his class, they tried to trade up for Cade. OTH he had Reed no 1 by a wide margin. Said Reed had a chance to be special in the NBA. Expectations on Reed was very high as evidenced by the "Cocaine Curry" moniker. He even got voted no 1 player in the class after 5 yrs by GMs. This whole "he just a role player" bro nobody smart spends a top 3 pick on someone they knew would be a role player. If Stone can go back in time he would use JG pick on Barnes/Wagner/Mobley and use Jabari pick on JDub.
I have doubts that he'd put up the same numbers as Jalen, but it does seem that he fairs better when he starts and is a focal point of the offense.
Here's another way to look at it. How did we judge Jalen Green's games where he played 27 mins under Ime Udoka and scored single digits on 27% from the field and 28.6% from three? Should we not keep that same energy for all of our players now we're trying to be contenders?
Who said that Stone had Green #1 in his class? BTW the Cade, Green, Mobley class was viewed as light years ahead of the Reed class. So any comparison in draft order best in class means very little....... every draft class is different. Saying Reed has a chance to be special isn't shocking, I think he has a chance to be special as well --- but the floor for him is also low. FWIW Stone said the same thing about Green and Smith. Teams draft best player available balanced with need....... and in some drafts, being a solid starter at #3 is about right. VJ Edgecomb just went #3 in the draft, if he becomes a solid starting player and role player, the Sixers will be happy with that because of the known quality of player at that spot in that particular draft. Do they hope he is more? Sure, they hope he is an all star and they hope that he isn't a bust - but they would be happy with a starting role player in the 2025 draft. The 2024 draft was not considered a good draft at the top - in fact it was considered a bad draft at the top. As for trading the #3 pick, the Rockets tried to, but the interest wasn't that strong...... because it wasn't a great draft at the top. Sheppard doesn't even go in the top 6-7 in the 2021 lottery draft.
Dude barely got any shots up how is that hard for you to understand. He started 3 games and shot 50% from 3… thing about being in rhythm and having the ball more with more opportunity helps a lot. Reed even in g league and in his starts usually started slow and then played much better in second half.
Go ahead if you want to - I am sure there will be other fans that agree with you. I personally don't find it constructive and I don't find the situation between Green and Sheppard to really be all that similar. If Reed is struggling by the all-star break, he will likely be a bust and moved - however that has no impact, good bad or otherwise when it comes to Jalen Green, who showed that he could not lead the Rockets out of a paper bag, and the Rockets did not want him to be a role player for whatever reason.
What's his potential? Which player comp is his ceiling? A more accurate, less creative, Tre Young has been my comp for awhile as Reed's ceiling outcome. But each time I watch him I feel like the clock is ticking on the validity of that comp. His anomalously elite skill has not yet presented itself at the NBA level. And I'm not sure he's above avg at anything else except having excellent, active, hands. He might be above avg at several things in addition to elite shooting - it's possible. But but his post-Kentucky play doess not support that belief.
Because he actually was. When everyone was out injured and he got the ball in his hands he started 3 games and shot 13/25 from three…
So it's constructive for a championship roster to give 28 minutes to somebody who goes less than 30% from the field? I'm not sure that word means the same thing where I'm from tbh, I'd say it's very constructive for a championship contender's roster to discuss the people not good enough to play on it, no?
I’m not understanding what you are saying? Who said Jalen or Reed are superstars. I don’t even want Reed to be a superstar. I thinks he’s the perfect complimentary piece to our starting lineup where Amen and Sengun will be our stars.. Plenty of guys can score 30. cam Thomas is a great example. And even he didn’t get the minutes and usage Jalen got.
Jalen Green had an 8 game stretch in Ime's first season where he scored over 26 a game every single game and averaged 33.3 pts on sometimes as much as 60% from 3. Still a big ol bust, 3 games aint ****.
No one is even saying he should have started. Did you really expect a 20 year to come in and be better than Fred? Like some of yall have unrealistic expectations of a rookie. Do you remember what rookie Kobe looked like? But it’s for the greater good of the team to develop Reed and give him the chance to grow. Which is something he didn’t get as a rookie and now it’s going to hurt us a lot this year
It is constructive when you don't have anyone else to play that position, when it is the first game of the season and when you think there is a good chance the player will improve? We are talking about the first game of the second year of his NBA career..... and if he doesn't improve he isn't going to be getting 30 minutes a game come game 1 in year 3. There aren't a lot of better options because FVF is hurt and the Rockets front office prioritized a third center (Capela) over another point guard. If he doesn't show improvement, he will lose minutes because Udoka isn't going to let him play long if Udoka doesn't like what he brings.
No one is saying it’s a good sample size but you saying he can’t shoot based off 6 minutes of game play is ridiculous also. He barely got to play at all how are his averages gonna be good. what I do know is whenever he gets a lot of minutes his numbers are insane. Whether is g league, summer league, regular season or preseason. He has flashed. It’s hard to shoot when you have no idea if or when you are even going to play. And he was one of the greatest shooters in college history. So I dunno how he would just forget how to shoot
Reed will probably end up having a worse NBA career from a number stand point....... but it is largely irrelevant because Jalen was very poor at the role they asked him to do, be a #1 option on a team. The expectation for Sheppard are lower, he is expected to be a very efficient player and hopefully be a starter long term. If Sheppard doesn't make strides towards that --- he will be playing in China.
I agree Reed is a worse player than Jalen at this time. But he’s also 2 and half years younger. If given the opportunity year 4 Reed will be better and than year 4 Jalen was to us.
