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Democrats -THIS is how you win

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Oct 9, 2025.

  1. GOATuve

    GOATuve Member

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    Who is "you and yours""? I don't support Trump. It's dems who want to say that because "you and yours" stand for garbage
     
  2. glynch

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    Goodbye. Susan Collins. We will not miss her much publicized agony as she supposedly ponders whether to support the the big money conservatives and the oligarchy which she inevitably does
     
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  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    Beto was fine, he made a lot of strides, where he failed was he should have LEANED in on the controversial taking away your Assault style of weapons instead of back tracking.

    Own your point - and don't try to please everyone, you can't - but waffling shows a lack of conviction - so got to stand strong on what you believe in and have enough things that the public wants that they will vote for you....IMHO.

    DD
     
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  4. glynch

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    lol the best he can do !!
     
  5. mtbrays

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    This makes me doubt your ability to gauge the appeal of Democratic candidates in states where the party hasn't been competitive in a decade.
     
  6. GOATuve

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    You can't see anything beyond your stomach fat boy. You're obese
     
  7. GOATuve

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    Lol at Beto being fine
     
  8. Rashmon

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    Got a very long unsolicited text message from him that was intriguing, but I don't like getting that stuff on my phone.

    I hope he wins in Maine, but our effort and money are best spent in Texas for Talarico.
     
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    Talarico is a man with a plan, he is like mayor Pete but straight..........I would vote for Pete every day of the week and twice on Sunday but my maga bro`s cant see past that
     
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  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    He almost beat Cruz in a severely gerrymandered state, he set the stage for the new guys, was he perfect, no, but I think he showed an alternative, now we need to lean into a more convicted approach.

    DD
     
  11. FrontRunner

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    Those California House races will be very important too.

    Thinking about sending some money that way.
     
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  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    The issue at the center is Beto is another soy boy that follows the old order messaging

    dont get me wrong he’s 1000x better than Lyin Ted, but not the future the dems should be eying
     
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  13. Andre0087

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    Democrats Keep Falling for Political Fantasies. When Will They Learn?

    Will Democrats ever learn to stop swooning?

    I refer, as you may have guessed, to the case of Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner and the rinse-wash-repeat pattern that has become all too familiar for the party in the digital age.


    It goes something like this: Political outsider or mostly new name mounts statewide campaign with online video that leans heavily on compelling biography or powerful oratory, out-of-state liberal hobbyists quickly fall in love and fork over money, and journalists rush to profile the latest heartthrob before inevitable disappointment when the candidate loses or, well, becomes John Fetterman.



    Platner is the latest example. A military veteran turned oysterman who looked the hirsute part, the Mainer’s populist candidacy seemed to be an immaculate conception. The contributions piled up, the profiles were published and then suddenly there was a disruption to the formula. Or maybe it was more of an acceleration.

    Once his Democratic rival, Maine Gov. Janet Mills, entered the race, Platner was hit with a nor’easter of oppo research that had the added value of being his own damning words. Rationalizing political violence, calling himself a “communist,” referring to all police as “bastards” and calling himself an “antifa supersoldier,” Platner’s paper trail was the stuff of Senator Susan Collins’s dreams. And that was before Platner tried to get ahead of the next hit by revealing the apparent Nazi tattoo on his naked torso.

    There is more to come, I’m told by sources very familiar with the Platner opposition file who spoke on the condition of anonymity. And some of it will be even more localized, which will make for ready-made targeted mail and digital ads from his opponent

    I’ve learned, for example, that in 2020, Platner went online and called the Hancock County Sheriff’s Office a den of “overweight pansies” and flatly said: “cops are opportunistic cowards.”

    You can guess how many Mainers in and around Hancock County, a rural region outside its summer resort enclaves, are related to or friends with law enforcement officers there.

    Platner did not respond to a request for a comment.

    This won’t slow Platner’s apologists.

    The left-wingers so enamored with Platner’s politics, apparently forgetting the lessons of Fetterman, have rushed to offer him the sort of grace they’d never bestow on a more moderate candidate, let alone a Republican.

    However, and this is crucial for Democrats to face their addiction, Platner just happened to be a lefty.

    This trend isn’t limited to one faction. There’s a reason why Bill Clinton likes to say, “Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love.”

    I give you Amy McGrath, Stacey Abrams, Beto O’Rourke, and the latest Texan posing for a glossy photo spread somewhere near a Lone Star flag, James Talarico. None are the beau ideal of a Bernie Sanders candidate.

    And, while I’m at it, I have no brief for the equally predictable Chuck Schumer approach to recruitment. Or, as the pejorative goes, the “consultant class” strategy. This would be: find a current or former governor or other prominent statewide official who’s well-known and can raise money, no matter if they’re AARP-eligible or have little chance to win a federal race.

    This strategy can work — there’s no lack of one-time Democratic governors in the ranks of today’s Senate — but it can also be a dud in red-leaning states. I give you Ted Strickland, Evan Bayh, Steve Bullock, Phil Bredesen and could go on.

    Rest: https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...ats-graham-platner-political-fantasy-00618031
     
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  14. No Worries

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    This is just a bunch of pearl clutching nonsense.

    Graham Platner is a flawed candidate for sure, but so is Susan "I'm so concerned but have zero plans to do jack **** about anything" Collins.

    The state of Maine appears to love Collins despite her flaws. If the voters in Maine remain concerned about the price of eggs, Platner has a shot. It is as simple as that.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    As the first video says. At least he's asking the right questions.
     
  16. mtbrays

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    I like what I've heard from him. I'm on the record as saying that Newsom has no chance of winning a national election because of who he is and where he's from. Beshear has shown that he can win in a state that's very unfavorable to the national Democratic brand, but deliver on things that matter to the party namely healthcare expansion.
     
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    reminiscent of former Gov Bill Clinton of Arkansas, with less political baggage
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I kind of agree. The key to the election is working class whites and young people. You need someone that they can connect with. Newsome is a little too slick for them. You have to get down to their level like Carter and Clinton were able to do. Carter was a peanut farmer that happen to have a degree in nuclear physics.
     
  19. mtbrays

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    It helped that he's the son of a popular former governor. But, it seems like he's done a good job since then
     

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