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Would you Trade Tari Eason & Kevon Harris for Ayo or Carter or Grimes or Oubre?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Futron, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:32 PM.

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Would you Trade Tari Eason & Kevon Harris for Ayo or Carter or Grimes or Oubre?

  1. Yes

    8 vote(s)
    11.3%
  2. No

    22 vote(s)
    31.0%
  3. Yes for Ayo

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  4. Yes for Carter

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  5. Yes for Grimes

    33 vote(s)
    46.5%
  6. Yes for Oubre

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. No, but maybe for another reasonable Guard

    4 vote(s)
    5.6%
  1. Futron

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    So I'm Back and clutchfans learned me real quick about just using chatgpt to do the trade as its wrong alot of times.

    I originally asked about trading for Coby White, but due to alot of reasons I won't get into its not possible and crazy enough its not by much but you would have to do a 4-1 of Tari, Kevon Harris, tate & holiday and it literally would cause the rockets to still need to shed $1 million in salary to avoid 2nd Apron penalty or have the trade rejected and they would STILL have add atleast 2 - 3 more players to the Roster. So its just not feasible.
    With that said, Derrick white, colin sexton, jrue holiday and the likes are DEFINITELY not Feasible.

    So basically we would have to target a capable guard that makes $10 million or less to make the salary and roster construction work. And ofcourse I think we would still have to wait until Dec. 15th to make the trade

    This time i did the do diligence of pulling the info myself from https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html and then i basically printed it as pdf and fed it and had ChatGPT to cross reference all the contracts and look for Guards that made $10 million or less and were on the last year of their deal. This is what it is good at and it also considered fit.

    So it was able to find some viable guards. Ironically 2 of those guards are also on Chicago.
    Ayo & Carter you could almost trade Tari straight up for them.

    and ironically the other 2 are on PHI Grimes & Oubre, but they are around $8 million so we may also have to include holiday or tate too.

    Here's the technicals below as I'm sure some people will shred apart my review of a possible trade again. lol

    CHATGPT:
    i ran through the contracts file you dropped and filtered for guards ≤ $10M this season, focusing on dudes who look expiring (no 2026-27 money listed or notes implying last year / player option that ends this year). here’s a clean short-list, plus a couple “close but not expiring” notes so you don’t waste time.

    TARGET GUARDS (≤ $10M, 2025-26 looks like final year)

    • Jevon Carter — CHI — $6.809M — player option exercised for 25-26; functionally expiring after this year. Profile: point-of-attack defense, low-mistake handler, above-avg catch-and-shoot. 【CHI table shows $6,809,524 in 2025-26; notes show 2025-26 player option】 :contentReference[oaicite:0]{index=0}

    • Quentin Grimes — PHI — $8.741M — single 25-26 number listed; projects as expiring/RFA-type bridge. 3-and-D combo G (can defend 1–2 and some 3s), needs reps as a secondary handler. :contentReference[oaicite:1]{index=1}

    • Kelly Oubre Jr. — PHI — $8.382M — single 25-26 number; reads like a one-year. More wing than guard, but can fill on-ball in second units and gives you size + scoring. :contentReference[oaicite:2]{index=2}

    • Ayo Dosunmu — CHI — $7.519M — appears to be the last season of the 3-yr deal signed in 2023; single 25-26 number shown. Two-way guard, improved shooting, solid POA defense. :contentReference[oaicite:3]{index=3}

    PROBABLY NOT “EXPIRING,” STILL ≤ $10M (flag these as less ideal)

    • Tyus Jones — ORL — $7.0M — table shows $7.0M again in 26-27, so not expiring. Great fit, but you’d be paying for 2 years. :contentReference[oaicite:4]{index=4}

    • Tre Jones — CHI — $9.0M — shows $9.0M in 25-26 and $8.0M in 26-27 → not expiring. :contentReference[oaicite:5]{index=5}

    • Ty Jerome — MEM — $8.781M, multi-year. Shooter/secondary, but not expiring. :contentReference[oaicite:6]{index=6}

    • Payton Pritchard — BOS — $7.232M, multi-year (not expiring). (Listed in the file outside the ≤$10M slice; kept off the target list for that reason.)

    GM-style breakdown for each target — Ayo, Jevon Carter, Quentin Grimes, Kelly Oubre Jr. — built strictly off the Basketball-Reference contracts dump you gave me (so the numbers are tight). I’ll show the trade structure, the salary deltas vs Houston’s outgoing, and the apron/roster implications. Where you told me your preferences, I honor them (e.g., Grimes/Oubre need to include Holiday, not Okogie/Green).

    ⚖️ Baseline: Houston outgoing building blocks (from your file)
    • Tari Eason$5,675,766.

      2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    • Aaron Holiday$2,296,274.

      2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    • Jae’Sean Tate$2,296,274 (kept out in your preferred builds unless noted).

      2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    • Kevon Harris — modeled as a standard vet-min ≈ $2,296,274 (same min line shown for Holiday/Tate in your file; if Harris differs, substitute any $2.296M minimum to replicate the math).

      2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …
    Two handy totals:

    • Eason + Harris = $7,972,040 (light 2-for-1 scaffold).

    • Eason + Holiday = $7,972,040 (same total; use for Grimes/Oubre per your note).

    • Eason + Holiday + Harris = $10,268,314 (clean 3-for-1 that reduces payroll on most targets).
    Target 1: Ayo Dosunmu (CHI)
    Salary (2025-26): $7,518,518.

    2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    Trade structure A (your preferred lean build)
    HOU receives: Ayo Dosunmu $7,518,518
    HOU sends: Tari Eason $5,675,766 + Kevon Harris ~$2,296,274 → $7,972,040

    Delta (Incoming − Outgoing): −$453,522team salary goes DOWN
    Cap/Apron read: Improves apron headroom; no pre-trim needed.

    Roster count: If you were at 15 standard → 2-for-1 → 14 (legal; ≥14 is fine).

    Trade structure B (even safer apron room)
    HOU sends: Eason + Holiday + Harris = $10,268,314
    Delta: −$2,749,796 (salary down a lot)
    Use case: Only if you want cushion; otherwise A is already clean.

    Fit note (quick): two-way, POA defense, improved shooting; plays on/off ball. Value likely costs you a real asset (Eason qualifies).

    Target 2: Jevon Carter (CHI)
    Salary (2025-26): $6,809,524.

    2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    Trade structure A (lean)
    HOU receives: Jevon Carter $6,809,524
    HOU sends: Eason + Harris = $7,972,040

    Delta: −$1,162,516salary down
    Apron: Adds breathing room; clean.

    Roster: 2-for-1 → 14 (good).

    Trade structure B (max cushion; usually unnecessary here)
    HOU sends: Eason + Holiday + Harris = $10,268,314
    Delta: −$3,458,790 (massive downshift)

    Fit note: low-mistake handler, POA defender, catch-and-shoot; true utility guard for playoff lineups.

    Target 3: Quentin Grimes (PHI)
    Salary (2025-26): $8,741,209.

    2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    you told me Holiday must be included here (not Okogie/Green). done.

    Trade structure A (your lean reality)
    HOU receives: Quentin Grimes $8,741,209
    HOU sends: Eason $5,675,766 + Holiday $2,296,274$7,972,040

    Delta: +$769,169salary UP
    Apron: Requires either (i) that you have ≥ ~$0.8M of apron headroom before execution, or (ii) a tiny pre-trim (dump a min into a TPE/cap-space team).

    Roster: 2-for-1 → 14 (fine).

    Trade structure B (clean, no pre-trim)
    HOU sends: Eason + Holiday + Harris = $10,268,314
    Delta: −$1,527,105salary DOWN (adds apron room)

    Roster: 3-for-1 → 13 → you must add 1 standard (convert a two-way or sign a prorated vet-min).

    Fit note: 3-and-D guard/wing, can defend 1–2 (some 3s), low turnover, enough handle to backfill second-unit PnR.

    Target 4: Kelly Oubre Jr. (PHI)
    Salary (2025-26): $8,382,150.

    2025-26 NBA Player Contracts _ …

    same constraint as Grimes: you said include Holiday (not Okogie/Green).

    Trade structure A (lean)
    HOU receives: Kelly Oubre Jr. $8,382,150
    HOU sends: Eason $5,675,766 + Holiday $2,296,274$7,972,040

    Delta: +$410,110salary UP
    Apron: Needs a touch of headroom or a micro pre-trim.

    Roster: 2-for-1 → 14 (fine).

    Trade structure B (clean)
    HOU sends: Eason + Holiday + Harris = $10,268,314
    Delta: −$1,886,164salary DOWN (gives you apron cushion)

    Roster: 3-for-1 → 13 → add 1 standard (convert two-way / sign prorated min).

    Fit note: more “scoring wing” than initiator; size/length/transition pop; complements Durant/Jabari lineups, not a pure POA stopper.
     
  2. kspires999

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    No, F No, No, and H3LL No. let the season play out and let Tari show whether he is healthy or not before proposing lopsided trades.
     
  3. Futron

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    Trust me, I want a Coby White, Colin Sexton, Derrick White type.
    But I crunched the numbers and due to our situation it has to be a solid player under $10 million

    and the way it’s looking we’re going to lose Tari for nothing. He is clearly over valuing himself and already seems to be disgruntled and on pace to act like Cam Whitmore did.
     
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    Franchise players for new franchise players?

     
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    Other than Pritchard, these players are all worse than Eason. And in the case of Grimes and Dosunmu, they both require extensions and would be unrestricted free agents next year. They aren’t worth moving Eason for.

    Unless the Rockets are getting at least a first-round pick with someone like Oubre, they are better off keeping Eason through the season and see how his restricted free agency goes. The Rockets can match the offer he gets next summer, so they do not need to take below market value.

    Pritchard for Eason, I would think about. Even Grimes, I’d want a pick sweetener from the 76ers.
     
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  7. Futron

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    Do you still think all those guards are worse than Eason after how he played?

    if Eason, looks horrible Friday, this post is going to age like fine wine
     
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    Grimes and Ayo are much better than Tari.
     
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    True but I am not entirely sure if we would be able to afford them next year. I don't believe either are RFA. Unless I am wrong, both would be rentals for the year.
     
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    Conceptually, I would consider trading Tari for Grimes or Ayo. In reality, I wouldn't because both players are UFAs next offseason. I'm not really interested in Oubre or Carter - if we're trading for a guard, I'd ideally like him to be on the younger side unless we are getting draft capital in return.
     
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    GIVE ME JAMAL SHEAD
     
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    There’s a random trade thread.
     
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    this is the answer. we can't really do **** with Tari but hope he either plays better or plays mid and earns a mid-type contract from the general market.
     
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    To get Grimes it would take Reed and Tari. Remember Morey is their GM. Truth be told, it may be worth the overspend as Grimes has star ability given the opportunity. Can the Rockets do the trade now or would they have to wait for December?
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    Why don't we trade for Terry Roz---

    Um, yeah....

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    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    By the way, in case y'all missed it, the below are a couple of CODBOMBs posted in a separate thread:

    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/...-reach-agreement.327460/page-11#post-15893684https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/...-reach-agreement.327460/page-11#post-15893684
     
  17. kspires999

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    I like to give the new season 15-20 games before making definite judgements. Our offensive scheme is a work in progress. Tari’s one bad offensive game is just one data point. If he looks this bad on December 15th then the trade rumor mill will gain some steam. For now, onto the Pistons game at home.
     
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    Are we going to lose Tari for nothing? I think your premise assumes a lot including a market for Tari Eason as an RFA. Most teams aren't operating with a lot of available cap room right now and oh by the way, the NBA announced that next year's salary cap is going to increase by less than what was initially projected meaning if teams structured their deals in recent years to spend just below the dollar of the old cap projection, they might now find themselves handicapped from being a FA player at all in next year's FA market.

    I think that just goes to say that the market of teams who could offer Tari a contract next year will be smaller, and the offers from those teams are likely to be smaller too and again - all that assumes that this smaller number of teams who can both offer Tari a contract, and actually make a compelling offer to Tari, would also have to be interested in Tari from a roster fit standpoint because not everyone necessarily "needs" a Tari Eason on their roster enough to invest $20ishmil - a team may have another roster need more pressing to use that money towards.

    Houston really does hold quite a bit of leverage here to allow another team to set the asking price of Tari and decide if they want to match knowing that the number of teams who could push Houston into a hard decision on Tari's contract is relatively limited. Add to that the way the new CBA has effectively disincentivized incentives in contracts which is typically how you would structure the contracts of young players with injury or performance concerns - it's effectively lowered the ceiling on what teams are willing to offer players like Tari. I think all of this says your premise is possible, but also not a likely scenario.
     
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    Should've drafted Shead!
     
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  20. clutchdabear

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    why do all these options suck so much. coby white and ayo dosumnu is as low of bball iq as you can get in an nba player. and who the hell is jevon carter? lol. grimes is okay but for eason would be an overpay... oubre??? hahaha

    no thanks to all
     

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